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An Air Force Plane Slated For The Scrap Heap Is Now On The Front Lines Against ISIS (A-10, Warthog)
BI - International Business Times ^ | 9-23-2014 | Christopher Harress

Posted on 09/23/2014 1:00:09 PM PDT by blam

Christopher Harress, International Business Times
September 23, 2014

A-10 Warthog in Afghanistan upload.wikimedia.org

As the U.S. begins bombing ISIS targets in Syria with a campaign of airstrikes that started Monday, a venerable airplane that was almost sent to the scrapyard joins the fight. The Pentagon will send a dozen A-10 Thunderbolt aircraft and up to 300 airmen to the Middle East in early October, to help in the conflict against the Islamic State group, the Indiana National Guard said.

The deployment of the 40-year-old aircraft comes just four months after it was controversially saved from defense cuts by Congress, whose rationale for saving it was simple: Cutting it would lead to the deaths of U.S. servicemen on the ground.

Built originally by now-defunct Fairchild to destroy Soviet tanks in Europe, the A-10 survived the end of the Cold War thanks to its ability to fly low, carry lots of bombs and a large cannon, and help troops with close air support, which made it often invaluable in Afghanistan. But with defense cuts looming and the Afghan war winding down, the Thunderbolt seemed on the way out.

The aircraft, while favored by some Air Force top brass, was slated to be cut from the defense budget in early May, with potential savings of about $4 billion over a five-year period. The more than 300 A-10s in service would have been grounded.

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KEYWORDS: a10; airforce; airplanes; warthog
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To: blam

The A-10 should have been assigned to the Marine Corps from the beginning.


61 posted on 09/23/2014 1:39:35 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: T-Bird45
If the USAF brass had had their way, the close-air support of the A-4 holdover from WW2/Korea would not have been available for VietNam .

You probably meant the AD-4 Skyraider which was redesignated the A-1E. The A-4 was another plane, the Navy's Skyhawk.

The Navy specified the Skyraider and deployed the airplane from 1946 through Korea then Vietnam. It arrived too late for WWII.

It was never in the USAF inventory until Vietnam when they realized they had nothing that was good for extended loiter time at a rescue site. A bonus was that the A-1E was a flying dumptruck. It could carry huge amounts of ordnance compared to the fast movers.

(RIP Jerry Valentine, Col, USAF a SH Sandy driver from NKP)

62 posted on 09/23/2014 1:40:58 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: blam

I hadn’t heard they rescued it. It seemed like a particularly dumb idea to scrap it, because it is ugly and deadly, and built like a brick $h*thouse


63 posted on 09/23/2014 1:41:30 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: research99
Don't know about MANPADS, but it was designed to survive in airspace defended by these:


64 posted on 09/23/2014 1:42:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Henri Gaudier-Brzeska

Hog 3 visual cleared hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0PgPK67jwc


65 posted on 09/23/2014 1:42:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Hulka

The Marines would love to have them.
They sure liked our A-4s in nam.
VMA-223 Mag 12, Chu Lai RVN.

Viet Nam, we were winning when I left.


66 posted on 09/23/2014 1:43:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SandRat

Actually, they KNOW there is glory in it. . .how many MoH awarded to Air Force CAS pilots during Vietnam? Five.

How many to the Air-to-Air jocks? Zero.

As it has been said, you can shoot down all the MiGs you want, but when you land and find Al Qaeda or ISIS having lunch in your snack bar, you lost the war.


67 posted on 09/23/2014 1:44:10 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: MrB
There’s nothing wrong with the plane, is there?

Nothing wrong w/ the plane itself but spare parts for repair are getting hard to find. The production tooling has been scrapped which means the only parts available are canabilized from planes shot up so bad they are no longer airworthy.

Regards,
GtG

PS I love the A-10, it's a flying tank!

PPS I think the Army should should be in control of it's close in air support.

68 posted on 09/23/2014 1:45:14 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

We used to have mass launched out of RAF Bentwaters and during one launch we had 109 Hogs in formation ‘attacking’ the UK coastline.

Such a ‘woodie’ over that one. . .


69 posted on 09/23/2014 1:46:08 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: blam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yMXTEowRpA

6:00 mark.


70 posted on 09/23/2014 1:46:35 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: pfflier

Thanks for that clarification on the nomenclature - much appreciated!! FRegards!


71 posted on 09/23/2014 1:47:36 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: blam

Perhaps they can start a military surplus program to benefit local Tea Party groups...


72 posted on 09/23/2014 1:47:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Looks like that A-10 took a round on it’s engine housing.

It's a sticker...


73 posted on 09/23/2014 1:48:38 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: blam

Instead of scrapping the A-10 Warthog the Air Force should update the design, add night vision, and build more, many more. There has never been a combat support aircraft that equals the A-10.


74 posted on 09/23/2014 1:48:45 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama : Hear us now or believe us on election day.)
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To: thackney

The 188th ANG flies the A-10 they used to buzz the farm on runs every morn. Was a sight to see! I would have hated to be on the firing end of a strafe by those guys.
Hit with the bombs from the fighters then send in the A-10’s
finish up with the MC 130E. Nothing left standing!


75 posted on 09/23/2014 1:48:49 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: blam

Instead of scrapping the A-10 Warthog the Air Force should update the design, add night vision, and build more, many more. There has never been a combat support aircraft that equals the A-10.


76 posted on 09/23/2014 1:48:54 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama : Hear us now or believe us on election day.)
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To: Hulka
Best time of my life, flying the Hog in the 80’s, in Europe. . .gawd. . .what a jet!

Great! Thank you for your service.

Since you've actually "been there, done that" could you please tell us some A-10 facts, experiences and stories. I'm sure many of us here would like to hear and talk about it.

77 posted on 09/23/2014 1:49:36 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The A-10 should have been assigned to the Marine Corps from the beginning.

Yes, Marines and Army.


78 posted on 09/23/2014 1:51:41 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: blam

The A10 is cheap and effective. The government needs a defective replacement that will cost a billion dollars per copy.


79 posted on 09/23/2014 1:51:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Billthedrill

Great story. I watched the vid at the link also. Good read and I didn’t mind at all the language. I’ve used worse.


80 posted on 09/23/2014 1:51:52 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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