Posted on 09/20/2014 5:15:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In the emotionally charged conversation about rape, few topics are more fraught than that of false allegations. Consider some responses to the news that singer-songwriter Conor Oberst had been falsely accused of sexual assault. Last December a woman writing in the comments section of the website xoJane, going by the name Joanie Faircloth, claimed Oberst raped her when she was a teenager.
The charge spread across the Internet; Oberst denied it and brought a libel suit against Faircloth when she refused to retract the story. In July she completely recanted, admitting that she had made it all up to get attention. Yet instead of showing sympathy for the ordeal of the musician—one known for being supportive of feminist issues—some chided him for taking legal action to defend himself against a false, career-damaging charge. In the Daily Dot, pop culture critic Chris Ostendorf decried the lawsuit, arguing that it could intimidate real victims of rape and that it promoted the idea of men as victims of false accusations—even though that’s exactly what Oberst was. After Oberst dropped the suit, Bustle’s Caroline Pate praised his decision and referred to the saga as “a roller-coaster for both parties”—treating the false accuser and the wrongly accused as morally equivalent—and called the revelation of Oberst’s innocence “crushingly disappointing.”
False rape accusations are a lightning rod for a variety of reasons. Rape is a repugnant crime—and one for which the evidence often relies on one person’s word against another’s. Moreover, in the not-so-distant past, the belief that women routinely make up rape charges often led to appalling treatment of victims. However, in challenging what author and law professor Susan Estrich has called “the myth of the lying woman,” feminists have been creating their own counter-myth: that of the woman who never lies.
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Soooooo the chick gets off SCOT FREE?...
Did she learn anything.?.. <<— absolutely...
What is right with you?
There are ways to distinguish,actually.For a long time I worked in the ER of a large hospital located in a major city.Like most such ERs we had a "rape crisis" team of nurses and physicians (mostly gynecologists) who were specially trained to identify signs of rape as well as treat and counsel victims of rape.These physicians and nurses would routinely testify as "expert witnesses" in rape trials.
And I can assure you that occasionally a woman would come in claiming rape and after having been examined the nurse and doctor who evaluated the woman would agree that she was lying.I heard such conversations more than a few times.
Really? Has this been or can this be demonstrated in an strictly scientific fashion? I doubt it.
As a former NCAA athlete (rifle team thank you very much), I already had a lot of knowledge on this subject. The university made sure that all athletes knew according to Ohio code what was going on. As far as references go, I honestly can’t remember the expert’s names that talked to us. A simple Google, Yahoo!, or Bing search might lead you to the answers that you want.
I’d like to address the amount of rapes that aren’t reported. Personally witnessing the blame the victim game first hand, I can honestly see how a victim would be scared to death to come forward especially in high profile cases. Imagine telling a stranger about your last sexual encounter. I’m talking explicit details. Now imagine those explicit details being something that you begged not to happen. The unreported rape cases vs. false accusations? I’m not saying one is higher than the other, but use your discretion.
This is medically and forensically known. A simple Internet search will help you with the concepts.just be careful how you enter the content into your search engine ; )
Indeed. Try being in the minority by thinking that a rapist is wrong.
Did the Kool-ade you drank taste good?
It’s a lot like false racism or hate crime charges. Once the charge is made, even if proven false, it is defended as, well, it COULD’VE happened. Never mind the ruined reputation of the falsely accused or the culpability of the accuser.
Do you like the flavor you’re drinking?
doesn’t matter- once the accusation is out there the accused can be tarnished forever...does the Duke lacrosse case bring back any memories?? there was a story posted on Freep last week; a female Columbia student accused another student of rape...the accused was exonerated after an investigation....didn’t matter to the accuser as she’s protesting by carrying a mattress (rather ironic) around with her from class to class until she gets revenge, i mean justice...
I agree. However, it also works the other way. The girl in the Steubenville rape case will forever be a slut. It doesn’t matter that she was raped and her rapists were convicted. To the locals she will always be a slut.
I’m not trying to say that there is a solution to the issue, just that there are two sides to every issue. I hope the Duke lacrosse boys own who slandered and libeled them. I also hope that true victims who are blamed find peace as well.
RE: I am reminded of that woman who got her boyfriend killed by her husband with such a false allegation.
False accusation of rape goes as far back as the Old Testament.
Joseph, a righteous man was falsely accused of rape by the wife of his master, Potiphar ( he was a trusted steward at that time ).
He was thrown in jail and rotted there for 13 years before he was released by Pharoah.
If you’re the type for one night stands you may want to set up video and audio recording to protect yourself
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Didn’t we used to call this porn OR at least invasion of privacy?
agree 1000% but it goes both ways and history has shown that it sides with the accuser rather than the accused- right or wrong...
Over Half a century ago, the dorms for men and women on college campuses were SEPARATE and there were strict visitation rules (i.e., men were not allowed to enter the women’s dorm rooms ).
Not any more.
I am not surprised that this so called “rape epidemic” on campus is being observed by many right now. You open the door of temptation to horny young men and women and this is what you’ll get.
I’m with you on that. I’m just posting from my own experience. It sickens me.
You are equating sex with rape. Rape is not about pleasure, but about control. I question the values, or lack thereof, with which children are raised. We have a disturbing generation of narcissists. I once again draw attention to the Steubenville rape case, during which students texted and Tweeted jokingly about the victim being “so raped.” There is the YouTube video with students joking that she was “so raped.” It’s very sickening.
Women joggers get attacked at the time, simply because they are available. Rapists typically choose victims on other criteria other than looks.
Case in point: this one.
So we are back to he said/ she said.
Or are you asserting that a lack of a rape kit means rape didn't happen?
Often with rape the victim is in shock and denial for some time. Some victims are chosen for their geographic or medical isolation. Children are particularly vulnerable.
On the false accusation end of the spectrum, it is a somewhat frequent happenstance that one parent in a divorce will inveigle their child to accuse the other parent or the other parent ‘ new SO. Victims of incest also sometimes falsely accuse someone outside the family in an attempt to keep their family intact and not be the bad one for destroying the family.
Things are not as cut and dried as you are attempting to make them seem.
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