another RAT stealing air somebody worth it could be breathing... and take the POS brother of yours with you when you go, feh
Posted on 09/20/2014 6:39:25 AM PDT by Rummyfan
An argument that society and families—and you—will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly
That’s how long I want to live: 75 years.
This preference drives my daughters crazy. It drives my brothers crazy. My loving friends think I am crazy. They think that I can’t mean what I say; that I haven’t thought clearly about this, because there is so much in the world to see and do. To convince me of my errors, they enumerate the myriad people I know who are over 75 and doing quite well. They are certain that as I get closer to 75, I will push the desired age back to 80, then 85, maybe even 90.
I am sure of my position. Doubtless, death is a loss. It deprives us of experiences and milestones, of time spent with our spouse and children. In short, it deprives us of all the things we value.
But here is a simple truth that many of us seem to resist: living too long is also a loss. It renders many of us, if not disabled, then faltering and declining, a state that may not be worse than death but is nonetheless deprived. It robs us of our creativity and ability to contribute to work, society, the world. It transforms how people experience us, relate to us, and, most important, remember us. We are no longer remembered as vibrant and engaged but as feeble, ineffectual, even pathetic.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
Quite true, until this article was posted.
But if the only comments are to be variants of “I don’t like Ezekiel Emanuel ,” why bother to post an article he’s written?
Wouldn’t it save time to just post the words “Ezekiel Emanuel?”
You’d get pretty much the same comments.
75 isn’t that old if you take good care of yourself and with modern medicine.
It’s that modern medicine thing they want to take away.
Even though many people have been paying into the health care system their entire life without using it.
When you start to really need it they want to take it away.
From you that is not them, they will make exceptions for their favorite groups/people.
another RAT stealing air somebody worth it could be breathing... and take the POS brother of yours with you when you go, feh
Apparently a lot of Freepers have been keeping up with who Emanuel is. When they read a new, current article written by him, it only verifies what they know. Thus, you will see the posts you are seeing on this thread.
A lot of us already know about his intentions and influence on our wonderfully transformed healthcare system. /s
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/ezekiel_emmanuels_reaper_curve.html
Only 75???.... what a quitter....he should go for it now.....
Amen !
Most of the comments here are ad hom and the man and his brothers well deserve that. But his arguments against medical intervention are valid. Most of the “life-prolonging” treatments that he will forgo are hack and slash and irradiate followed tons and tons of drugs. None of those things are good for holistic health and quality of life.
Take care of the job now, while you still have control.
You mean besides the fact that they are openly calling for suicide and justifying government mass murder on behalf of totalitarian collectivism, the reversal morality, and the death of America and with it human civilization?
Exactly right. Prolonging life for the sake of prolonging life has always seemed to me to be somewhat narcissistic. My family and friends know exactly where to find me if I become a terminal case without hope (or only the remotest imaginable hope) of getting well enough to truly live, and it won’t be in a hospital bed watching the dollars fly out the window.
This article and others show where what the progressives have in mind for ordinary citizens.
1) Retirement age for Social Security will be raised to 70.
2) Single payer government run health care. Government bureaucrats will determine how people are treated and what medical research is funded.
3) Private retirement accounts (IRA’s, 401K’s, corporate pensions) will be rolled into “individual” Social Security accounts where they will be “invested” in “safe” government bonds.
4) Ultimately the “individual” Social Security accounts will be collectivized because it isn’t fair that some receive larger pensions than others.
5) Euthanasia at age 75 for all except members of the elites considered still essential to society (ex presidents and Congressmen)
6) End to inheritance for average folk who can’t hide their money outside the country. It isn’t fair.
The point is the government deciding to withhold medical care while the elite continue to get every shred of it they want. It's a freedom vs. totalitarian death camp thing you obviously don't understand.
What does that have to do with telling the entire population of the United States that they will all be executed on their 75th birthdays?
Thank you.
Absolutely nothing, but I don’t think the author comes anywhere close to saying that. He was stating a personal preference (one that is probably quite easy to have given that he’s not terribly close to being 75), not outlining a policy prescription for the United States.
Untrue. Not only is he not calling for either of these, openly or not, he's openly saying he's opposed to them.
Nor am I talking about waking up one morning 18 years from now and ending my life through euthanasia or suicide. Since the 1990s, I have actively opposed legalizing euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide.
Why can't you argue with what the man is saying, not build strawmen out of lies and then argue with them?
And time is on the devil’s side.
They will wait until Conservative protectors of the First and Second Amendments are dead and gone.
That’s why we must defeat them now and throw out the expansive, overreaching agencies, who trample our rights today.
He does not propose policy, as you say, but he does float the idea of offing oneself, the first step toward physician-assisted suicide or somesuch. PAS does not need Nazi enforcement to be effective to accomplish much of what he asserts here. Belgium etal provide us with much data that reveals that the primary motive becomes removing oneself as a burden to others. Legal & voluntary PAS, just as with legal & voluntary abortion murder, works its magic all the same.
I'm trying to outdo the Old Man, who made 95 and lived on his own. I'm trying to outdo his "kid" sister who just turned 102. And this is without getting into all Ma's 90 yo brothers and sisters.
Hey, if I go, I go, but I have no intention of letting some one else dictate the time and place of my demise.
I hope he dies yesterday.
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