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The Russian who did this will rat out by other Russian fighting over who can collect the fastest.

Now to see who in the know in Kremlin, FSB, Russian military has the evidence Putin ordered this.

1 posted on 09/18/2014 12:07:32 AM PDT by free_life
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The launcher (with only it’s acquisition radar) did not have the full accompaniment (the full-radar vehicle), nor the command vehicle. Basically a tracked vehicle, with short-range walkie-talky capability, and maybe a cellphone. There was no Putin-to-General X-to-push button dude contact.

The guy in the launch vehicle? He’s six-feet-under already. His usefulness ended around forty-eight hours after the plane came down.

All of this leads back to a half-baked Russian strategy, with no real end point that you can envision....except to aggravate the EU, and counter-point the weak US capability. The last time I checked...there’s no court to fix stupid decisions by Putin.


2 posted on 09/18/2014 12:59:48 AM PDT by pepsionice
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We already know who ordered the shooting down of a passenger plane.

No one did.

Only a real idiot would think anyone did.
What motive? What benefit? None.

The idea that anyone there intentionally shot down a passenger plane is absurd. It obviously was a misidentification, an accident.

Same as when the Ukraine army shot down a passenger plane in 2001, same as when the USA shot down a passenger plane in 1998.

The fact is that it defied common sense to fly a passenger plane right over the middle of a tiny warzone where multiple military planes had recently been shot down.
If you want to look for blame, whoever sent it over that path would share in it.
The pilot, the airline, the air traffic controllers, and the country for raising the flight ceiling instead of simply diverting traffic around the small war zone.


5 posted on 09/18/2014 2:10:09 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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“Also, Russian monitoring systems registered that there was a Ukrainian Air Force jet, probably Su-25, climbing and approaching the Malaysian Boeing.” “The Su-25 was 3-5 km away from the Malaysian plane. Su-25 is capable of climbing to the altitude of 10,000 meters for a short period of time. Its standard armament includes R60 air-to-air missiles, which are capable of locking and hitting targets from 12 km and which are guaranteed to hit the target from the distance of 5 km.”
7 posted on 09/18/2014 3:16:33 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Let them check the recordings between Kiev ATC and MH17.

Should we call them "30 million dollar tapes".

Some from the Kiev junta may be tempted.

15 posted on 09/18/2014 2:01:10 PM PDT by DTA
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The hunt has narrowed to six suspects:


18 posted on 09/18/2014 2:19:01 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Psst - Don't tell ISIS about all the Mossad agents in their ranks!)
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