Of course, despite all that, the way the FedGov behaves any more, what the law says is not as important as it used to be. Not when it doesn't serve their ends.
Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:26 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
Ok folks...
Most of us are aware of the NFA of 1934 and the raft of unConstitutional regulations that have followed in it's wake.
Lots of people have gone through extraordinary lengths to comply with, rather than fight, the Federal government.
Latest version of this fight is unincorporated trusts. Class III firearms can be transferred into and out of a trust easier than any other still legal method. Recently, the BATFE ruled that unincorporated trusts do not meet the legal definition of a person.
Loophole generated.
922o states that People cannot manufacture new firearms post 1986. If a trust isn't a person, by the BATFE's own definition, then they should be able to fill out the Form 1 paperwork AS THE TRUST to manufacture/convert a firearm to a Class 3.
Several people have now done this, and been APPROVED.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1624460_ATF_ruling_may_have_opened_door_to_new_machine_guns__Pg9_Form_1_APPROVED_Pg18_ATF_call_audio.html&page=1
Someone at the BATFE must have realized the poop-storm they just created because just this week phone calls and letters went out revoking, possibly, hundreds of already approved Form 1's for new Class 3 firearms.
Now, we have this...
http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/09/11/did-atf-approve-your-making-of-a-new-machinegun-and-then-rescind-it-contact-us-to-discuss/
Folks over on ARFCOM a still trying to get their ducks lined up. I have no financial interest in this, am not a member of Prince Law firm, and am a member on ARFCOM but with no other legal or financial ties to that website. Consider that as much of a legal disclaimer I can think of without actually consulting a lawyer.
If you own Class 3 firearms, were one of those who tried to exploit the loophole, or otherwise have an interest in this... The above links have the pertinent info to get involved.
FReegards,
Dead Corpse Gun Nut and wanna-be Class 3 owner
Interesting.
My thoughts exactly.
I have four AR’s in semi-auto configuration that would be much more fun with a DIAS and a happy switch.
FFL dealers are the biggest enemy in this fight - making money off the destruction of the 2nd Amendment. Worse yet, we consent to this every time we submit to a background check.
There are more of us than there are of them.
Folks with millions invested in overly inflated Class III toys might lose some in this, but pre-86 firearms will be worth more just having survived this screwed up era of our Nations history.
So if they revoke the Form 1s, aren’t they thereby saying that trusts ARE people? Anyway, didn’t the Supreme Court says that corporations are people...and if that’s true, what stops a trust from having the same status?
They’d do a whole lot better to go to Congress, get the machine gun ban in the ‘86 FOPA revoked, and start licensing people to have happy switches and new full autos so that they can collect $200/pop. After all, if Somali and Iraqi civilians can get a REAL AK for $50, why can’t we supposedly free Americans do the same?
There isn’t that much interest in full auto actually. I’m sure this applies to SBR Trusts as well, of which they must be getting deluged over lately.
My question: Should someone who types a letter with that many typographical errors in it; and then obviously is not conscientious enough to even proof-read it before publishing it as an example for others to follow, be allowed within 10 feet of a machine gun? Inquiring minds want to know.
Do better...
If not... Doors that way... -—>
There exists a DIAS-like design that adds a “happy switch” to a Glock. Working models exist (outside the USA). Blueprints are available if you dig a bit. 3D printing comes to mind, if $200 and some paperwork make legal problems go away.
They are revoking them, after approving them. Without any other violation or disqualification being given.
That isn’t legal...
There’s another loophole in 922(o): appropriate agencies can authorize a Form 4 for anyone.
Suspicions are some well-connected people have been approved, but the action is very hush-hush and the ATF refuses to give the slightest hint of acknowledgement.
Of course, despite all that, the way the FedGov behaves any more, what the law says is not as important as it used to be. Not when it doesn't serve their ends.
Why a wannabe class three ?
Since the present administration thinks IT doesn’t have to follow the law...why should we? Machine gun away, I say...
of what possible use would an uncontrollable FA handgun be?
Confused.....NFA Trusts no longer legal? possible?
Full auto is very wasteful of ammo, not really a good way to go, except in special situations.
Your inability to imagine a legitimate use, nor inability to handle one, does not mean others cannot either; not owning/using one should be a matter of informed sensible choice, not unilateral RKBA violation.
The Glock 18 is manageable and applicable. Dangerous, yes, but that’s kinda the point.
That was the intention, but it grossly backfired.
Well
He is from formerly cool state Vermont
When you’re drowning in hippie green doo doo I guess its easier to deride others rather than face reality
Note this applies to all south obsessed here except certain minorities
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