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Ukraine Crisis: 'If I Want, I Will Take Kiev in Two Weeks', Putin Warns EU's Barroso
International Business Times ^ | 9/1/14 | Jack Moore

Posted on 09/01/2014 12:57:58 PM PDT by babylon_times

Russian President Vladimir Putin has issued a threat to outgoing European Commission President Jose Manual Barroso that he could "take Kiev in two weeks" if he wanted, Italian media reports have said.

According to Italian newspaper La Repubblica, the Russian leader made the belligerent statement in a phone call with the outgoing EU leader, who is set to be replaced by Luxembourg's former prime minister Jean-Claude Juncker...



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: eucommission; kiev; nato; putin; ukraine
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To: SgtHooper

The Evil Empire is Back!


161 posted on 09/01/2014 4:18:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

it never went away.......only mutated.

If the chinese and Russians get in league over energy.....the US better be prepared to open its own gas and oil reserves.


162 posted on 09/01/2014 4:20:21 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: caww

Great post and you are so correct!


163 posted on 09/01/2014 4:20:22 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: ansel12

I hope you are correct. But a mere 200 troops, er, personnel (prolly most are paper pushers), is nonsense. Make it 2,000 and I’ll give them some consideration. Make it 10,000 and I’ll admit I’m wrong!! 200 troops requires a some support group. So if 200 includes the support group, there’s prolly more like 75 troops. What’s the point. Purely political?


164 posted on 09/01/2014 4:23:29 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: duckln

That’s another thing that gets me about the general obtuseness that permeates these threads. We are supposed to not “provoke” the Bear, respect his “backyard,” and all that . . . but allegedly we are not “surrendering” anything at all.


165 posted on 09/01/2014 4:24:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

responding to Russian aggression is not “provoking”


166 posted on 09/01/2014 4:25:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cen-Tejas
The world spins on who and where the oil is......rather reminds of the movie "Dune". only everything centered around "Spice"...here's the refinery


167 posted on 09/01/2014 4:31:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: GeronL

My point is (and let’s stick to abstract blackboard theory for a second): it is silly to claim that party A has no interest in issue B, by arguing that party A is “provoking” party C by acting on issue B. If party C is somehow being forced to respond to party A, then by definition party A has an interest.


168 posted on 09/01/2014 4:32:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

In my experience in dealing with the Roosians, there is only ONE thing they understand—STRENGTH! They respect strength! Anything less is perceived as weakness. I wonder how the US is being perceived. Hmmmmm.


169 posted on 09/01/2014 4:32:18 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: caww

So the Russians are invading Ukraine over oil?


170 posted on 09/01/2014 4:32:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ansel12

The evil societal world of Putin’s Russia is easy to see. The evil financial world of the Rothchilds is not so easy to see. The hatred/conflict between the two worlds is not seen but is being felt around the world.


171 posted on 09/01/2014 4:34:01 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: SgtHooper

Did you read the quote?

Although Australia pulled out their large body of troops in December, these 200 “Special Forces” troops would be joining the 400 Australians still there.


172 posted on 09/01/2014 4:37:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Reagan defeated the Soviets in Afghanistan by arming the Afghans

Reagan blundered, he should have defeated the Afghans by arming the Soviets.

Then it would have helped us, as we wouldn't have to invade Afghan a second bloody time.

173 posted on 09/01/2014 4:38:36 PM PDT by duckln
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To: sunmars

You are right, but the Sino-Soviet disputes run deep. I would be shocked, it they actually colluded on anything.


174 posted on 09/01/2014 4:38:49 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: 1rudeboy

That is logical.

How come I wasn’t invited?

/kidding


175 posted on 09/01/2014 4:40:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SgtHooper

...” ONE thing they understand—STRENGTH! They respect strength! Anything less is perceived as weakness”....

Same with Ukrainians. ..and they are generally pretty brutal when they fight because they fight to “win”. Also with ISIS and all the Islamic groups.

I think many Ukrainians fighting this war haven’t a clue what they are fighting among themselves for anymore. The battle’s been lost in the politics of it all.


176 posted on 09/01/2014 4:44:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: duckln

Good Lord you are an idiot, do you remember the Cold war at all?

The world was on the verge of death everyday, we didn’t foresee ever defeating the USSR, and we didn’t see anyway to avoid what had to happen eventually, either we and Europe were conquered at the loss of hundreds of millions of lives, or Total Global Thermonuclear War, and the following nuclear winter that might end all human life.

Electing the one man of history at the right moment, that could defeat the Soviet Union, was a fluke, a God send, and defeating the Soviet Army in Afghanistan was a HUGE part of that.


177 posted on 09/01/2014 4:48:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Ah, I raced passed that. Sorry. But still, I want to see significant numbers committed AND some measure of losses (most terrible and unfortunate, of course) to really assess the Australian commitment in this war. For example, sending 2,000 peacekeepers (not saying they did) is not a commitment, where they simply stand around without fear of combat.


178 posted on 09/01/2014 4:50:56 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: caww

Agreed. I fear that we really do not know the level of chaos on the ground, and even at the political level. Who’s on first, etc. I hope the Ukes have a clear focus, but I just do not know. But we should at least drop in small arms and anti-armor weapons. For some reason I don’t think the Uke armor can compete against the Russian Armor.


179 posted on 09/01/2014 4:58:07 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: duckln

Here are all U.S, military deaths by year, for everywhere.

U.S. Active Duty Military Deaths 1980-2006

1980 .... 2,392
1981 .... 2,380
1982 .... 2,319
1983 .... 2,465
1984 .... 1,999
1985 .... 2,252
1986 .... 1,984
1987 .... 1,983
1988 .... 1,819
1989 .... 1,636
1990 .... 1,507
1991 .... 1,787
1992 .... 1,293
1993 .... 1,213 1994 .... 1,075
1995 .... 1,040
1996 ....... 974
1997 ....... 817
1998 ....... 827
1999 ....... 796
2000 ....... 758
2001 ....... 891
2002 ....... 999
2003 .... 1,410
2004 .... 1,873
2005 .... 1,941
2006 .... 1,875

Our total accumulated combat deaths in Afghanistan from 2001 until now, are at 2039.


180 posted on 09/01/2014 4:59:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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