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To: WhiskeyX

More Ukrainian propaganda. Can’t you at least choose websites that are not from Ukraine? What’s wrong with Germany?


3 posted on 09/01/2014 11:03:32 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: palmer

“More Ukrainian propaganda.”

So you’re claiming this didn’t happen? Really?


5 posted on 09/01/2014 11:12:43 AM PDT by vladimir998
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From a friend in Ukraine:

“Next to go will be Mariupol, soldiers who were at Novoazovsk..had to retreat, they said that they are 300 with AK-74’s against thousands and tanks. That city will fall in 1 day or less.”

“Can’t get a Visa to anywhere for your family due to the politicians and bureaucrats, working on it as usual, should get EU visas within two weeks...not everyone is British or American, you don’t know how good you and I have it with passports at least.”

“This of course being the main problem with the locals in the Donbass Region, they were rejected by the west for visas, couldn’t see what it was and we were like, believe the ‘Devil’ Putin and think Russia is the best thing since sliced bread?”

“Well my house and all the contents are gone, they bombed the shit out of our estate, my friends house got hit by 6 mortar rounds, it’s about 100 yards if that from our house, or what was our house, probably Terrorist HQ by now.”


6 posted on 09/01/2014 11:12:50 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: palmer
More Ukrainian propaganda. Can’t you at least choose websites that are not from Ukraine? What’s wrong with Germany?

Dugin is for real. You don't actually think that Ukraine propaganda is making up things about Dugin, do you?

7 posted on 09/01/2014 11:15:01 AM PDT by FreeReign
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Russian media reported that Russia and Ukraine exchanged prisoners yesterday. I guess that is more proof that Russia is not at war in Ukraine?

lol


11 posted on 09/01/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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As a sidenote...looks like Poroshenko’s finally meeting with the Eastern Ukraine leadership and are setting conditions which appear favorable for both sides.

No doubt E Ukraine is willing to cooperate with economic and trade etc. with Kiev....but want to govern their own people with Russia as the official language of E. Ukraine. At least they have a starting point and are talking.

The most difficult matter was to get Poroshenko to sit down with the East leadership...which he had refused time and again from the beginning, even after saying he would do just that when running for Pres. Instead he unloaded with targeted shelling of the east...and the escalation ensued.

Poroshenko AGAIN has to change his military leadership as announced this week...he has o control there and the troops are continuing to refuse to fight when they are loosing a battles, and this as parents protest against their children being sent to the East..

Added to this the US has stepped away from supporting Poroshenko, leaving Europe and Nato to step up....of course this 'AFTER' the US ceased control of their oil and gas infrastructure...signed and sealed this past week.....which would have also included Donbass and Eastern Ukraine area....that remains in the balance now. I suspect the Oligarchs are being considered in their share and control in the EAst as well.

33 posted on 09/01/2014 12:26:05 PM PDT by caww
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