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Russian fascist ideologue Dugin: Why stop with Donetsk and Luhansk?
Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group KhPG ^ | 01.09.14 | Halya Coynash

Posted on 09/01/2014 10:59:32 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

A number of fascists and neo-Nazis descended on Yalta this weekend, with members of prominent fascist parties like Hungary’s Jobbik due to attend. They joined Sergei Glazyev, senior adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin, Maxim Shevchenko a member of Putin’s human rights council, Kremlin-backed militants and their Russian comrades from various far-right and neo-Nazi parties in discussing the fight against the ‘fascist junta in Kyiv’. A star attraction was surely the proposed formation of a Russian ‘Anti-fascist Council’.

It is unclear at present how many of the invited members of Belgium’s neo-Nazi Parti Communautaire National-Européen’; fascist Jobbik; far-right British National Party and others actually attended the Aug 29-31 conference on “Russia, Ukraine and Novorossiya: global problems and challenges”. Reports mention only that people from the relevant countries were present.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: dugin; neonazi; putin; russia
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To: palmer

Are you merely anti-Ukrainian, or are you like some other Putinistas pro-Putin and anti-American?


21 posted on 09/01/2014 11:50:06 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: palmer

Free all the remaining Soviet countries still held under Russian imperialism.


22 posted on 09/01/2014 11:51:43 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

every Republic in the Russian Federation needs independence


23 posted on 09/01/2014 11:52:26 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Good point. Let all the Russians be free to assemble, speak their own minds, worship as they may choose, petition their leaders for redress of grievances, write articles in the press, etc., etc.


24 posted on 09/01/2014 11:54:35 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

International Business Times

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-if-i-want-i-will-take-kiev-two-weeks-putin-warns-eus-barroso-1463471

“If I Want, I Will Take Kyiv in Two Weeks,” Vladimir Putin Warns EU’s Barroso

he continues to describe Ukraine as “New Russia” Novorossyia


25 posted on 09/01/2014 11:55:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Amazing.


26 posted on 09/01/2014 11:58:31 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: palmer
Putin Follower to Appear With US White Supremacists At Far-Right Conference - August 31, 2014 - Kremlin ideologue Alexander Dugin is to appear alongside US white nationalists at a far-right conference in Hungary in October.

Dugin, who recently called for the Ukrainian "race of bastards" to be "cleansed", will appear at the event in Budapest alongside figures including Richard Spencer, president of the US white nationalist thinktank the National Policy Institute.

Spencer told Buzzfeed that the conference would offer the chance for nationalists from across Europe and beyond to exchange ideas.

"I think there are a lot of things happening in Europe that I think would excite people like me and people who want to go to the conference, and would excite Americans who care about their European identity," Spencer said.

Held from 3-5 October, the conference is entitled 'The Future of Europe: Perspectives on Geopolitics, Identity and Nationalism'.

Amongst the speakers are Hungarian far-right politician Marton Gyongyosi, who recently called for a list of "dangerous Jews" to be compiled; and Manuel Oschenreiter, a journalist and commentator for the Russian TV channel RT, recently exposed as editor of far-right magazine Zuerst! which glorified Nazi Germany.

One speaker, US author Richard Spencer, has argued that black people are less intelligent than white people, and that "when blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization – any kind of civilization – disappears."

27 posted on 09/01/2014 12:06:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: elhombrelibre

I am anti-Sunni. Ukraine is pro-Sunni. But other than that I certainly support an independent Ukraine, but probably smaller than the current Ukraine. We’ll have to see how that works out. Size does not matter to me at all.


28 posted on 09/01/2014 12:09:34 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thank you very much for that link. It is somewhat of an ad hom piece but it does show there are unclean hands on Putin’s side.


29 posted on 09/01/2014 12:11:46 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: palmer

I support a much smaller Russia


30 posted on 09/01/2014 12:13:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: palmer
No third party link describing the fascist whatever that I am supposed to ooh and ah at?

Information about Dugin has been common knowledge and has been available for quit some time. That's why nobody is rushing to give you a link.

For example from NRO...

Dugin’s Evil Theology

A tiny history lesson for you: Ukraine is nothing but a chunk of land traditionally divided among western and eastern Europe powers. Keeping it intact makes no sense.

Here's a tiny little lesson for you. Ukraine (minus Crimea) is a country of about 40 million people. An overwhelming majority of people who live on "that chunk of land" don't want to be part of Russia and do want to be part of Ukraine. Your comment that "keeping it (Ukraine) intact makes no sense", is ironically utter nonsense.

31 posted on 09/01/2014 12:17:13 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: palmer

But are you saying it didn’t happen?


32 posted on 09/01/2014 12:20:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: palmer
As a sidenote...looks like Poroshenko’s finally meeting with the Eastern Ukraine leadership and are setting conditions which appear favorable for both sides.

No doubt E Ukraine is willing to cooperate with economic and trade etc. with Kiev....but want to govern their own people with Russia as the official language of E. Ukraine. At least they have a starting point and are talking.

The most difficult matter was to get Poroshenko to sit down with the East leadership...which he had refused time and again from the beginning, even after saying he would do just that when running for Pres. Instead he unloaded with targeted shelling of the east...and the escalation ensued.

Poroshenko AGAIN has to change his military leadership as announced this week...he has o control there and the troops are continuing to refuse to fight when they are loosing a battles, and this as parents protest against their children being sent to the East..

Added to this the US has stepped away from supporting Poroshenko, leaving Europe and Nato to step up....of course this 'AFTER' the US ceased control of their oil and gas infrastructure...signed and sealed this past week.....which would have also included Donbass and Eastern Ukraine area....that remains in the balance now. I suspect the Oligarchs are being considered in their share and control in the EAst as well.

33 posted on 09/01/2014 12:26:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: palmer

How is Ukraine pro-Sunni?


34 posted on 09/01/2014 12:26:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: caww
Poroshenko Wants Donetsk, Luhansk Republics to be Recognized as Terrorist Organizations - September 1, 2014 - Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko intends to raise the issue of recognizing the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics as terrorist organizations during his upcoming visit to the United States, the president’s press service said in a statement Monday.
35 posted on 09/01/2014 12:31:02 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: palmer

http://www.workersliberty.org/node/23635
http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-this-week/
https://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/russian-and-other-fascists-discard-their-uk-socialist-friends/
http://liveinpolandofgood.blogspot.com/2014/08/1984-russian-and-european-fascists.html
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/76928.html
https://ruptly.tv/vod/view/13666/russia-we-will-not-negotiate-lugansk-militia-leader-says
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/as-russia-invades-ukraine-the-kremlins-far-right-allies-meet-in-yalta-94a30929c35
http://histoireetsociete.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/27909/


36 posted on 09/01/2014 12:34:38 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: GeronL

He said that his forces if he wanted he ‘could’ take Kiev in two weeks....and we knew that in the beginning of this conflict. ....Putin certainly did....The key is if or not Putin wants to....thus far his answer has been no he doesn’t want Kiev. Why would he?

Frankly I believe Putin will continue to support the Easts qusi-independence from Kiev while they still remainin a part of Ukraine in trade and economically...at least according to the conditions they’re ‘now’ discussing between Poroshenko and the Eastern leadership..... At least they’re talking.

Rasmmussen needs to stay out of these talks altogether...he’s a warmonger to the hilt......but the new EU Pres..lol...can’t even speak English and his grandfather was a Nazi...go figure that! What a web being spun by all!


37 posted on 09/01/2014 12:35:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

The Russians are the war-mongerers. Pure and simple.


38 posted on 09/01/2014 12:37:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Epic Russian Tank Fail

Epic Russian Tank Fail!

39 posted on 09/01/2014 12:44:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

That wont’ work Joe....Poroshenko has little more than talk he can do....his army is in really bad shape...as Shireff stated...”Pitiful condition”.

( However, one of Britain’s top generals has warned.)

General Sir Richard Shirreff, one of Britain’s top Generals , who was also former Duputy Commander at Nato this year, warned that the Nato military alliance needed to be rearmed...because until Ukraine Nato had all but been dismantling their military for the most part, and Nato nations were not supporting it as agreed prior.

Further... that Nato would be “ very hard pressed” and would find it very difficult to put into the field, at sea or into the air the means required, particularly on land I would assess, to counter any form of Russian adventurism....without American support”...‘Nato would find it really difficult to get a division (20,000 people) out of the door in quick time”..

(All Poroshenko can do now is talk...as was said...all his military leaders want to do is bomb..and that’s not working as evidenced except to destroy the entire Eastern area...it certainly isn’t winning the war. He can’t find leadership that understands the war games of today....and information is a part of that.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735501/Nato-powerless-stop-Russian-invasion-Eastern-Europe-says-British-general.html


40 posted on 09/01/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by caww
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