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To: PGR88; cuban leaf
And further, if you obey its rules, then if anything bad happens to you it’s not your fault or responsibility.

Very interesting perspective you must have. What do you mean by this comment?

Islam absolves the believer of any responsibility for doing bad things.

Even small things.

For example, if you drop a cup and it breaks on the floor, they will say, "The cup fell from my hands." Putting the onus on 'the cup'.

Or if you trip on a rug that has a fold standing up, they will say, "The rug rose and tripped my foot." thus saying the rug caused my fall, so not my fault.................

42 posted on 08/29/2014 7:10:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger; cuban leaf
Very interesting. Your comments reminded me of something. The following is from "The Worldview that Makes the Underclass” by Anthony Danielsby in the May/June Issue of Imprimis:
It was in the prison that I first realized I should listen carefully, not only to what people said, but to the way that they said it. I noticed, for example, that murderers who had stabbed someone always said of the fatal moment that “the knife went in.”

This was an interesting locution, because it implied that it was the knife that guided the hand rather than the hand that guided the knife. It is clear that this locution serves to absolve the culprit, at least in his own mind, from his responsibility for his act.

It also seeks to persuade the listener that the culprit is not really guilty, that something other than his decisions led to the death of the victim. This was so even if the victim was a man against whom the perpetrator was known to have a serious grudge, and whom he sought out at the other side of the city having carried a knife with him.

The human mind is a subtle instrument, and something more than straightforward lying was going on here. The culprit both believed what he was saying and knew perfectly well at the same time that it was nonsense.

No doubt this kind of bad faith is not unique to the type of people I encountered in the hospital and the prison. In Shakespeare’s King Lear, Edmund, the evil son of the Earl of Gloucester, says:

This is the excellent foppery of the world: that when we are sick in fortune—often the surfeit of our own behaviour—we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and the stars, as if we were villains on necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion; knaves, thieves, and treachers, by spherical predominance; drunkards, liars, and adulterers, by an enforced obedience of planetary influence; and all that we are evil in, by a divine thrusting on. An admirable evasion of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish disposition to the charge of a star!
In other words, it wasn’t me.

58 posted on 08/29/2014 7:45:20 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Red Badger

So the knife beheads someone or it is the guns fault for killing someone.

Then if the Knife/Gun kills the infidel and the muslim holds no responsibility for their actions. Then the Knife/Gun should get the 70 virgins.


66 posted on 08/29/2014 7:59:47 AM PDT by Bailee
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