Posted on 08/26/2014 7:01:54 PM PDT by SMGFan
American teenagers don't get enough sleep, often because their "biological sleep rhythms" clash with the wake-up times required by their schools' early starts -- and that's a problem says the American Academy of Pediatrics. The physicians group this week recommended that middle and high schools start no earlier than 8:30 a.m.
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“I got an earache, man.”
I had a mother who believed that if you were ill, a couple of spoons of cod liver oil would fix you right up. Have you ever tasted cod liver oil at 6 a.m.? I tried the “sick in” only once during all my years in school.
So you think it’s better to allow teenagers to lay around most of the morning and do as they please with no structure in their lives or no one to guide and push then, when necessary, toward anything productive?
“I had a mother who believed that if you were ill, a couple of spoons of cod liver oil would fix you right up. Have you ever tasted cod liver oil at 6 a.m.? I tried the “sick in” only once during all my years in school.”
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I had a cod liver oil mother too——and occasionally she gave us castor oil.
Castor oil is the nastiest thing known to man.
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Idiot Dr.s. Put the kids to bed earlier at night and they get plenty of sleep. Take away their phones and games at a given time each evening.
These guys apparently don’t consider what the effect would be on working parents who have a commute and have to be at work earlier than their proposal would allow. ...My last 10 years of working, before retiring, we had 0700-1530 as our workday.
Some of the drugs that kids take interfere with their sleep. They really can't be expected to go to sleep until they start to come down.
This has been studied and proven over the last three decades. Some school districts have adjusted the schedules accordingly most have not
It’s funny, my senior year I started school at 6AM and was out at 11AM when I went to work at my full time job. Somehow I managed to stay up late, get up early and still carry a 3.5 GPA. Maybe todays kids are just woosies that are coddled too much. Oh, did I forget the part about walking to and from school five miles uphill both ways?
Not. Schools exist to educate children. Getting them ready for real life is the job of parents.
I’m amazed that FReepers don’t realize that the human sleep/wake cycle operates differently at different stages of life.
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I can testify to that! Just turned 72 and for the past 3-4 years my wake/sleep hours go through a stressful time about 3 times a year. When those times occur, I might sleep 13-17 hours at a time and a day or two later I might be awake for 30 or more hours. My sleep cycle usually goes back to near normal (sleep 0400-1200) after about 3 weeks of the craziness.
We had it tough ... I had to get up at 9 o’clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of dry poison, work 29 hours down mill, and when we came home our Dad would kill us, and dance about on
our grave singing Haleleuia ...
So, what you are saying is that if they are not being raised by government, the only alternative is that they will lie around, do nothing, etc.
That’s a different Dewey.
Well, they’re pretty much doing that now, aren’t they?
“Sleep apnea?”
No,,, something far more complicated. I am asleep and awake at the same time. Falling asleep is very difficult. REM is a mess, as I’m also awake while it’s going on. My doc thinks that I have many more connections between my right half and my left half. I am a musician who never plays the same thing twice. Good and bad!
Notice how, even among FReepers, the notion that it is the task of government to raise children is almost universally accepted?
How many man-hours and millions of dollars have been wasted by “conservatives” campaigning for the Pledge of Allegiance* and Prayer in School? That’s like campaigning for prayer in whorehouses.
* Which denies the inalienable natural right of secession.
I value improvisation over the same thing every time. For example, my favorite band plays different leads in their songs for every tour.
But I’ve never heard of asleep and awake at the same time. Have you gone for an MRI and/or sleep study?
Those are two different men. John Dewey was an educator. Melvil Dewey was a librarian at Amherst. Neither of them were related to the founding partner of the law firm Dewey, Cheatem and Howe.
Bull excrement!
“Have you gone for an MRI and/or sleep study?”
No. My doc says he should have sent me years ago, but my problem is kinda out of his experience. At almost 70, why bother? But, almost every night is an unpleasant experience! REM sleep is interesting! Sometimes it’s actually quite calm, other times it’s extremely violent! People who go into REM don’t move. Me? I thrash around. If you’re in REM, and dream about a ninth grade dodge ball game, your body doesn’t move. If I have that dream, I thrash around trying to avoid the ball. 6 months ago, I tore up both my rotator cuffs in a dream! Not the first time I’ve injured myself whilst asleep either!
So, what you are saying is that if they are not being raised by government, the only alternative is that they will lie around, do nothing, etc.”
I said nothing about being raised by the government. They need to be raised by two responsible parents. Everyone has a job to do. A child’s job is to be a student and going to school and academic learning is just part of the education they need in order to learn to be productive adults. A parent’s job is to set the example, establish the rules and stick to them. IMO raising a child to be an upstanding adult is one of the most difficult tasks of all, particularly given the present environment.
Kids will always do something - parents just need to make sure they have the proper guidance and tools so that when they grow up they know how to make good choices.
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