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Advancing Ukraine troops take fight to heart of pro-Moscow rebellion
Reuters Canada ^ | Aug. 19, 2014 | Maria Tsvetkova and Noah Barkin

Posted on 08/19/2014 9:42:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

DONETSK Ukraine/BERLIN (Reuters) - A gun battle broke out in the center of the rebel-held Ukrainian city of Donetsk and residents ran for cover from artillery fire on Tuesday, taking a government military offensive into the heart of the retreating pro-Moscow separatist rebellion.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart will meet next week for the first time in months to try to end their confrontation over the separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine, their offices said.

In a prelude to the talks between Putin and Ukraine's Petro Poroshenko, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is to visit the Ukrainian capital Kiev on Saturday, her office said, to show support for the Ukrainian government.

A diplomatic solution would have to resolve a contradiction: with his troops advancing and victory possibly within reach, Poroshenko has little incentive to offer the kind of compromises that would allow Putin to achieve a face-saving deal.

Donetsk has for months been the headquarters of Ukraine's separatist rebellion, with rebel flags flying over administrative buildings and where residents strolled along the main avenue lined with flower bed and fountains.

On Tuesday afternoon, the center of the city was transformed into a battle zone.

A Reuters reporter said intense shooting broke out. Five or six rebel gunmen ran through a shopping mall car park, ducking behind cars and firing their guns.

It was not possible to determine at whom they were firing; there was no sign of Ukrainian troops and the rebels remained in control of the center.

In a park near the rebel headquarters building, residents fled when they heard the sound of shelling nearby. Shops closed early, and cars with gunmen inside sped through the streets, ignoring red traffic signals.

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.reuters.com ...


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1 posted on 08/19/2014 9:42:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

It ends when Pupin’ quits abusing his neighbor state’s sovereignty.

End of story.

I’d be very careful of a summit. Any compromise, will be a compromise regarding Ukrainian sovereignty.

That should not even be on the table.

Imagine the Ukraine sending mercs into Russia, then trying to set up a summit to compromise. No, Russia would demand it simply retreat and stop all hostilities.

Russia should work from that model, without a summit.


2 posted on 08/19/2014 9:51:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: DoughtyOne

And don’t forget (I know you haven’t) that Russia has already gobbled-up a piece of Ukraine.


3 posted on 08/19/2014 9:56:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

In a few months Kiev will forget Crimea and talk about some sort of Donetsk autonomy.

Being cold does that.


4 posted on 08/19/2014 10:02:04 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

Crimea had autonomy before it was annexed, incidentally.


5 posted on 08/19/2014 10:03:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, unless Putin, the God of Putinista poltroons and pro-despot lowbrows, invades it’s all over but the Putinista crying. Sniff. Sniff


6 posted on 08/19/2014 10:08:26 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I agree.


7 posted on 08/19/2014 10:10:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Careful. That site might be Nazi/Soros. Try flicking through some random twitter accounts if you want the real skinny.


8 posted on 08/19/2014 10:14:16 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Unsourced Twitter reports say that the Banderite/Nazi forces are on the run, and the rest are defecting to the Russian side.


9 posted on 08/19/2014 10:16:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

There you go! Doesn’t that feel better? If you really want to get the buzz tho’, just keep telling everyone that ‘winter’s coming’.


10 posted on 08/19/2014 10:20:14 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: 1rudeboy

Maybe taking out that column of Russian armor that was posing as “humanitarian aid” did the trick?

I am pleased that the Ukrainians look like they will be able to repel the Sov, er, Russians on their own.

After all, they can’t depend on us, memo or no memo


11 posted on 08/19/2014 10:31:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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FR Needs Donors To Survive

Please Donate!

12 posted on 08/19/2014 10:34:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: 1rudeboy

Thank you for this post.


13 posted on 08/19/2014 10:36:02 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: 1rudeboy

Poroshenko had better bring along his own food, cookware and cooks, and make sure that Putin can’t do anything more than shake his hand in front of cameras. Otherwise, he may be poisoned.


14 posted on 08/19/2014 11:17:15 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Owen
Maybe Ukrainians will just buy some of these:

They cost about 40 bucks at Walmart.

15 posted on 08/19/2014 12:08:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

looks like what, about 2500 watts? Per room. Per country?


16 posted on 08/19/2014 12:27:37 PM PDT by Owen
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To: 1rudeboy
Makiivka, Donetsk Oblast Residents "drove out" DNR forces and fill in their trenches
17 posted on 08/19/2014 1:18:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Owen; Tailgunner Joe

It would be really foolish to make any political settlement based on a promise or expectation of energy supplied by Putin.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 1:52:20 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: 1rudeboy; All
Ukraine street battles in Luhansk as troops advance
19 posted on 08/19/2014 1:56:08 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

#PutinOnTheHits

lmao


20 posted on 08/19/2014 2:10:46 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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