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To: marron
If the governor is wrong, a judge can order the money reinstated.

I'm disappointed in Perry here, because he is wrong. It is not up to Perry to try to force the resignation of an elected official. That up to the voters, or up to a legislative body (impeachment).

But you are absolutely correct. A possibly unconstitutional veto should not be seen as a criminal offense. It is just something that needs to be looked at by a judge.

If this indictment is allowed to stand, it will set a very dangerous precedent.

And if Perry's veto is allowed to stand, that also would set a very dangerous precedent.

13 posted on 08/17/2014 10:46:04 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right
"And if Perry's veto is allowed to stand, that also would set a very dangerous precedent."

Are there parameter requirements for a veto? I was always of the understanding that a veto could be made for any reason whatsoever. If the legislature opposed the veto, they could override it. I had always thought that that was the correction for a veto, for whatever reason the veto was made.

16 posted on 08/17/2014 10:49:26 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Pachelbel --- The original one-hit wonder.)
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To: Leaning Right
A possibly unconstitutional veto

No, not possible. A legislative bill that passed and reached the governor's desk can be vetoed.

And if Perry's veto is allowed to stand, that also would set a very dangerous precedent.

LoL.

21 posted on 08/17/2014 11:03:50 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Leaning Right
And if Perry's veto is allowed to stand, that also would set a very dangerous precedent.

What would that very dangerous precedent be? That the Executive has plenary power to veto any act of the legislature? Please put your finger on the part of the Texas Constitution that says that a governor's veto may be questioned by any authority except the legislature [which has the power to override the same veto.]

Every veto is a political exercise, because the executive is acting under the authority given him by the polity.

What would set a VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT would be the claim that the judiciary may intervene in a political decision.. Very dangerous, indeed.

22 posted on 08/17/2014 11:05:06 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Leaning Right

I disagree that it wasn’t up to Perry to force a resignation. I contend that it was up to every citizen in the state of Texas to force a resignation of the drunken prosecutor. Since Perry is also a citizen, he had every right and duty to get this disgrace out of office. Under the opposite logic, we would have to allow convicted murderers to remain in office until the next election if we want to “leave it to the voters.” What Perry did was to use his part of the “Power of the Purse” to try to see that justice was done. To borrow a phrase from H. Carr, “In the Halls of Justice, justice is in the halls.”


25 posted on 08/17/2014 11:09:52 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Leaning Right

Do us all a favor and get some balls. If governors cannot freely campaign and tell the voters exactly why they will veto something, if will be a disaster for the American people, freedom of speech, and about a dozen other important protections. You think he should lie and pretend it isn’t because this woman remained in office.

Meanwhile, in NJ Christie openly campaigned for the NY/NJ Port Authority to fund repairs to the Pulaski Skyway which millions take to get to NYC. He publicly prevailed and they are investigating him for “securities fraud” claiming investors in Port Authority bonds weren’t told it would use money to repair that road.

First mistake Republicans make is forgetting how absolutely evil the democrats are. Perry’s veto is not the issue here.

It’s like executing someone for making a wrong turn on the highway and then discussing the fact they took a wrong turn.

Enough. It’s not criminal behavior it is American behavior.


26 posted on 08/17/2014 11:11:11 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Leaning Right

“I’m disappointed in Perry here, because he is wrong. It is not up to Perry to try to force the resignation of an elected official. That up to the voters, or up to a legislative body (impeachment).
But you are absolutely correct. A possibly unconstitutional veto should not be seen as a criminal offense. It is just something that needs to be looked at by a judge.”

He is wrong in trying to force out an elected official.
I agree that a criminal charge is overkill.
If he were going to pursue this course he probably should have just vetoed the budget without the threat.
I think it also looks a bit sketchy that he did this while under investigation by the PIU


30 posted on 08/17/2014 11:14:09 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Leaning Right
You're being ridiculous.

If a government official commits a crime, it is entirely appropriate for Perry or any other taxpayer to call for her resignation.

The veto is a power the Governor is entitled to exercise whenever and for whatever reason he wants.

This is an illegal attempt to overturn an election and to influence the next one.

McCrum is a toad.

34 posted on 08/17/2014 11:19:46 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Leaning Right
I'm disappointed in Perry here, because he is wrong.

If you read the actual statutes cited you will see that Perry is not in the wrong, but simply doing what he was elected to do. It appears that the indictment is based on an illogical and unsupported interpretation of the law. So illogical in fact, that based on the prosecutor's apparent theory of the law (Texas Penal Code 36.03) he too is violating it.

A good summary is here.

42 posted on 08/17/2014 11:38:45 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Leaning Right
Why a dangerous precedent? When is common sense in govt a dangerous precedent? What is wrong with defunding a department investigating/prosecuting the corruption of public officials when led by a corrupt official? Defunding it is the correct decision; the governor has a responsibility to prevent the waste the taxpayers’ money on such a farce.
73 posted on 08/17/2014 12:52:10 PM PDT by erkelly
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