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When is this going to stop - People and LE put in grave danger over an un-secured router and some threats?

Was this level of police militarized power necessary?

1 posted on 08/17/2014 9:56:45 AM PDT by HammerT
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Video link:

Swat Team Raids Innocent Woman’s Home; Lawsuit Filed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xEBmhAgAtR4


2 posted on 08/17/2014 9:57:59 AM PDT by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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3 posted on 08/17/2014 10:00:49 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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Compensation for damage to their house will only be recovered (if then) by a costly law suit against the city. And the actual culprits are rarely liable.


5 posted on 08/17/2014 10:06:16 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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SO DID THE STUPID COPS EVER GO DO THE SAME THING AT THE RIGHT HOUSE?????

DID THEY EVER ARREST THE RIGHT PERSON????

DIP$!TZ


10 posted on 08/17/2014 10:14:00 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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“they had the wrong place”

When the police break into the home of an innocent person without a search warrant, they have broken the law and must go to jail.
If they have a search warrant and they go to the wrong home they have broken the law and must go to jail.


12 posted on 08/17/2014 10:14:17 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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An unsecured router led to this stunning military type raid???


13 posted on 08/17/2014 10:18:09 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Good thing they didn't have a dog.
14 posted on 08/17/2014 10:19:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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Was this level of police militarized power necessary?

The ultimate expression, and eventual end-game of "See something, say something."

15 posted on 08/17/2014 10:20:17 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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So much for thorough investigations, and due diligence in police detective work. Are the police that afraid that they would rather resort to SWAT raids instead of just knocking on the door to ask a few questions? I guess that it's just too much to ask of the police dept. to do some surveillance work, and pull some files to read over.

And people wonder why there is such a negative perception of law enforcement in the US today.

16 posted on 08/17/2014 10:22:16 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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It was fun and cutting up after they executed their raid.... I wonder if any of these JBT had a ounce of remorse they tore up a completely innocent persons home...let alone arrested two innocent people...

My Gawd, I would hang my head in shame....


17 posted on 08/17/2014 10:22:37 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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Wow, it’s a good thing that these brave swat team thug put the scared LITTLE girl in hand cuffs along with the 68 year old mother.

These swat thugs had no idea if there were little children playing on the floor or if there was a baby laying on a blanket when they threw two flash bangs into the house.

Well at least they went home safe and that is all that matters, f thet innocent mother and little girl.

Who ever issue the order should be responsible for ALL damages for not doing any type of investigation prior to the thug raid.


19 posted on 08/17/2014 10:25:33 AM PDT by chiefqc
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This is the kind of crap people need to worry about. Not riot control.


20 posted on 08/17/2014 10:27:54 AM PDT by skeeter
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Hey police! I know you don’t want complicated thoughts to get in the way of your bang bang shoot the a$$holes fun, but here’s a thought. An IP address is not a person.
Kinda like a “telephone number.” The telephone number is not a person. Get it? I don’t think I can simplify it any more.

You need ONE MORE thing before you go after a person. SOME indication as to the identity of the individual.

BTW, look at a lot of pictures of TV remotes. They don’t have a trigger or a barrel. They aren’t guns. So don’t shoot the old man reaching for the remote to mute the sound.

OH, and a lot of old people are deaf, so don’t shoot a hole through their hearing aids when you decide the hearing aid is a gun.


22 posted on 08/17/2014 10:35:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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This crap right here is what stokes the fires and turns a local shooting incident like Ferguson into a Nationwide brouhaha...

This Ramboed-up-flash-banging-breaking-down-old-lady's-doors crap needs to stop NOW!

Its undermining legitimate law enforcement operations. If these over-the-top Rambo ops aren't nipped in the bud then Ferguson type reactions will become the normal response to these incidents but it will instead be directed at those in charge. And when the mob stops looting and instead starts dragging the cops and their masters out into the street for some severe attitude adjustment it's gonna take a major shakedown to put that genie back in the bottle!

23 posted on 08/17/2014 10:36:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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26 posted on 08/17/2014 10:44:47 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Oh wow...poor people.


28 posted on 08/17/2014 10:46:56 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Truth: “wrong house” does not give the cops a free pass to do anything they want. They are completely responsible, civilly, and criminally, for anything they do to the wrong person. Apologies are no good. Criminal and/or civil remedies are the only way.

The innocent person has the right to protect himself and his family. The innocent person has the right to use force for protection. There will be a clash of forces. If the innocent person is injured or killed, the innocent person has been murdered.


30 posted on 08/17/2014 10:47:25 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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B-b-b-but there’s some thugs on the streets of Ferguson. We HAVE to have an oppressive police force.


32 posted on 08/17/2014 10:49:37 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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I mean, you know, what were the threats?

Were they, what do they say “specific” threats? Or was it “I’m going to get you” stuff?

Was it thought to be tea party related, like: you deserve to be rejected by the voters?

You’d think they might have checked these people out a little bit, to see if it seemed reasonable they were making the threats. Don’t they have an IT guy who could explain to them the postings might not have come from that exact location?

This is just off the top of my head, so I’m wondering why the professional crime investigators didn’t think of any of it.


33 posted on 08/17/2014 10:52:48 AM PDT by jocon307
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Totally unnecessary. Could have been handled by a couple of deputies and a polite knock on the door. Sadly it will continue until someone has to pay out of their own pocket instead of the taxpayers.


35 posted on 08/17/2014 11:04:34 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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