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What I did after police killed my son
Politico ^ | 8-15-14 | Michael Bell

Posted on 08/16/2014 11:19:26 AM PDT by yldstrk

After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through.”

I could imagine it all too easily, just as the rest of the country has been seeing it all too clearly in the terrible images coming from Ferguson, Mo., in the aftermath of the killing of Michael Brown. On Friday, after a week of angry protests, the police in Ferguson finally identified the officer implicated in Brown's shooting, although the circumstances still remain unclear.

I have known the name of the policeman who killed my son, Michael, for ten years. And he is still working on the force in Kenosha.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: killing; police
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To: yldstrk

I think there’s a posse of FR cop haters making a trek to Ferguson MO to show their solidarity!

Right on brothers! Off some pigs!

Seriously, this contingent will call us “cop suckers” if we simply don’t hate cops and think they are a priori cold blooded murderers in all instances.

This is the Rev Al contingent, Bill Ayers contingent of FR and they are quite incongruous.


21 posted on 08/16/2014 11:39:34 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: icwhatudo

Now there you go interjecting facts.....How dare you.


22 posted on 08/16/2014 11:40:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cap'n Crunch
The evidence in a shooting is presented to a Grand Jury, they are the ones who say ‘yay’ or ‘nay.’

And the prosecutor decides what evidence the Grand Jury will see, and what they won't, and he will decide how strenuously to argue the case in front of them.

If the prosecutor is not interested in an indictment, there won't be one.

23 posted on 08/16/2014 11:41:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: icwhatudo
How is shooting a man fighting with 3 cops, who had already been tasered 4 times, after your partner yells-”He has my gun!”equal a trigger happy cop?

So you advocate shooting a perp because he's fighting with 3 cops...?

24 posted on 08/16/2014 11:41:51 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: Moonman62

So what if he was drunk as a lord? He was handcuffed and it sounds like the cop just basically executed him. If it was as described how does it differ from the incident in that infamous photo from the Vietnam war?


25 posted on 08/16/2014 11:42:23 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: freebilly

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.


26 posted on 08/16/2014 11:43:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: icwhatudo
How is shooting a man fighting with 3 cops, who had already been tasered 4 times, after your partner yells-”He has my gun!”equal a trigger happy cop?

First of all, as far as I can tell, the kid did not have the officers gun. The cop only felt it being pulled which was hooked on his side mirror...

So you mean to tell me three cops who are trained to deal with people who are intoxicated needed to shot a handcuffed person in the head? Not once but twice pulled the trigger after a misfire...?

Sounds trigger happy to me, but that's just my opinion, the jury who awarded them 1.75 million must have seen something sideways here...

27 posted on 08/16/2014 11:43:31 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dallas59

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_January_2014


28 posted on 08/16/2014 11:44:50 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dfwgator

The real issue beyond this one incident is that in 129 years all shootings by cops in Wisconsin were righteous. Who needs probable cause when you can make the laws of probability simply disappear....


29 posted on 08/16/2014 11:45:29 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: Dallas59

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States_2014


30 posted on 08/16/2014 11:47:15 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NormsRevenge

your a good man Norm... I have always liked your posts.. and your a Vet if I remember correctly..


31 posted on 08/16/2014 11:47:16 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: yldstrk
Bell's drunk, belligerent son - who had no problem putting other people's lives in danger by driving while intoxicated - thought he could punch and kick his way out of a well-deserved arrest.

Turns out he was wrong.

I'm not sure why it matters that he was not holding a weapon or that he was outside his house rather than anyone else's.

I'm unaware of any law that says you're allowed to attack someone if you don't have a weapon - that didn't work too well for Trayvon Martin.

Nor did I know that you are allowed to resist arrest as long as you are outside your house.

32 posted on 08/16/2014 11:49:44 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Chuzzlewit

I have family in law enforcement..

to see some of the crap others would toss at them

for the mistakes of other cops pisses me off..

Yes, cops do make mistakes, they do lose it ..

they are human.

but to then see scabs ripped off just to bang away at hem

over a case where all the facts are not in yet..

just par for the course for those who have axes to grind here..

I say, let em grind.

Justice is blind after all.


33 posted on 08/16/2014 11:50:19 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: yldstrk
2014-03-11

Boyd, James (38) New Mexico (Albuquerque) Albuquerque police fatally shot James Boyd, 38, in the Sandia foothills following an hours-long standoff and after he threatened to kill officers with a small knife, authorities said.

He died after officers fired stun guns, bean bags and six live rounds, authorities initially claimed. But a helmet-camera video showed Boyd, who claimed to be a federal agent, agreeing to walk down the mountain with them, gathering his things and having his back turned to the officers when they killed Boyd.[10]

One of the more eye opening shootings on the list....

34 posted on 08/16/2014 11:50:33 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: jocon307

According to the father’s investigation, the police officer got his gun caught on the broken mirror of a car, but thought it was Michael Bell attempting to grab the gun.

I glanced at some articles on the incident and one said it was an illegal stop. I want to know if his son was legally drunk as it relates to that issue. His state of mind and resultant behavior at the time could have also affected the officer’s belief that Bell was trying to take his gun.


35 posted on 08/16/2014 11:50:45 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cops are the new lawyers.

Everyone bashes on them.....until they need one.


36 posted on 08/16/2014 11:51:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Moonman62
I also wonder what he means by his son being “slightly intoxicated.” Was he over the limit, or not?

It makes no difference whatsoever whether he was sober, "slightly intoxicated" or fall down drunk. His son was handcuffed with his hands behind his back when "an officer had put his gun up directly to Michael’s right temple and misfired, then did it again, and shot him."
37 posted on 08/16/2014 11:52:19 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: yldstrk

http://www.odmp.org/officer/14283-police-officer-travis-ed-williams

This is my uncle. I never got to meet him. Every single person that I have met that did know him thought of him as a truly great man, who would have likely ended up as police chief. Obviously there are poeple in law enforcement that have no business being there. They are the exception, and I wish that the media would quit trying to convince people, especially Freepers, that they are the rule.


38 posted on 08/16/2014 11:53:38 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: dfwgator
Play stupid games win stupid prizes

True..., when LEOs execute one of your family members you can comfort yourself with those sage words of wisdom....

39 posted on 08/16/2014 11:53:40 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: wideawake
I'm not sure why it matters that he was not holding a weapon...

Seriously ???

Every year thousands of intoxicated drivers get belligerent when busted...

How many are shot in the head with three cops on the scene when they are unarmed. ...?

40 posted on 08/16/2014 11:54:21 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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