Posted on 08/15/2014 4:31:47 PM PDT by mandaladon
U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan Thursday ordered the Internal Revenue Service to come up with new answers after IRS employees contradicted sworn testimony about damage to Lois Lerner’s hard drive.
Sullivan ruled that “the IRS is hereby ORDERED to file a sworn Declaration, by an official with the authority to speak under oath for the Agency, by no later than August 22, 2014″ on four issues: the IRS’ attempted recovery of Lerner’s lost emails after her computer allegedly crashed, bar codes that could have been on the hard drive, IRS policies on hard drive destruction, and information about an outside vendor who worked on IRS hard drives.
Recent documents from nonprofit group Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the IRS, which Sullivan is presiding over, showed that IRS technology officials contradicted sworn testimony about damage to Lerner’s hard drive.
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Great system . . . it worked so well in the USSR . . .</sarcasm>
Ruh Roh....
DJFrisat,
Good analysis and information!
Question:
Did -all- the hard drives of the people who -sent- email to Lois crash??
(I don’t think so... )
That is probably not a joke, plus with the DOJ a criminal enterprise, I wonder if the judge really has the power to arrest anyone for non compliance. If the government is lawless, then it be comes that old truism of the judge and what army?
“I can’t say this is any more than speculation, but does any one find it odd that the Post Office is reporting a 2 billion loss in the first quarter?
Could this administration be transferring funds from one entity to another? Using the money to continue to obfuscate?”
I am sure that is what as referred to as Obama’s stash and it does not surprise me that this lawless regime would do just that.
I am sure that they are transferring funds from one agency to another illegally and am sure they will not stop unless a judge builds his own army and stops them. The only evidence I have that this is going on is their total disregard for the law, they, like all bullies, only respect power.
In short, you are right on the money.
My personal belief is that they are lying from A-to-Z about this, and it's a criminal coverup far exceeding anything that the Nixon gang ever contemplated. When I worked for a major corporation, my PC and unix box were backed up NIGHTLY, and I was just a peon.
To contend that high IRS (and other gov't agencies) mucky-mucks don't have strict backup requirements and that anything on them can be tragically, accidentally 'permanently lost', strains credulity and insults intelligence.
Agree about the coverup.
The big hole in their lie is that there are more than one hard drive involved, plus the servers/backup... the info IS there.
All IMHO: If he declares executive privilege, he tacitly admits there were conversations he was privy to which included info on the tape. That would be an admission the charges are true that is the IRS was doing political work. Anyway, such a privilege would not stand up and he would be ordered to make them available putting him at personal risk. While he cannot be charged with any criminal violations except treason while President, I don’t think that extends to civil and administrative matters as demonstrated by the continued attacks on Nixon about the IRS deductions he took for donating of his papers. I love to see our “constitutional professor” hoisted on his own petard over some constitutional issue where in he gets it shoved.
The budget for the IRS needs to be Zero’d. While their at it, I can think of a long list of other federal agencies and programs that also need to have their budgets turned into a Zero.
The Congress *CAN* do all of the above, but don’t. Instead, they sit back and complain about things just like the rest of us, as if they are bystanders. Sort of like the “Rush Theorem”, but applied to Congress....
Lois Lerner must go to jail or there is no justice.
Let's be gullible and accept the premise that Lerner's hard drive crashed and that was the only place where these emails existed. (Hey, I voted for Dole, McCain & Romney -- I'm good at holding my nose...) If that's the case, and there are no server backups, the question becomes: 'What do IRS regulations stipulate about backing up and archiving email, and why were these procedures not implemented?'
Who within the IRS or outside, is responsible for there being no backups? This is not a perpetrator-less crime, and somebody should be, at the very least, terminated.
Sorry, but I don't believe that dogs have that much an appetite for homework, with the possible exception of cooking class...
The USSR collapsed because they fought capitalism, and created a bloated government to insure that everyone was absolutely equal. Not because the it had honest governors, or more adept thieves.
Lets find out, rikers should do the trick..
Huh? Who's "we"? The voters? Congress?
No way! If we do that, the IRS will retaliate by indicting the voters of America (or Congress or whoever) for corruption and malfeasance.
Didn't you see what happened to Rick Perry when he cut the budget of a bureaucracy ruled over by a BAC*3 drunk-driving Libtyrant?
</sarcasm>
What do you mean by "supports"? It states that JW's latest FOIAs turned up IRS memos showing some IRS Techs contradicting the sworn testimony of other IRS functionaries. That seems to me to "support" the headline, regardless of whether it provides details. For more detail, you'll have to visit JW's site.
Here are details on the contradictory stories from the IRS --- .... Recent documents from [JW's FOIA] lawsuit against the IRS, which Sullivan is presiding over, showed that IRS technology officials contradicted sworn testimony about damage to Lerner’s hard drive. ... The IRS technology official who served as the source of the “scratched” and “shredded” revelation is believed to have looked at the hard drive after Signor. Sullivan’s order seems to have been motivated by the obvious contradiction.
Nothing in the article states that the techs stated the drive was not damaged. Other sources have said there were scratches... But not this article. The headline is misleading.
You just think they are deleted, just because you can't go to another computer and download them again, doesn't mean they are really deleted forever.
You can't depend on anything truly disappearing forever.
A bigger requirement would be a recognition that a government agent's duties require that the person make a bona fide effort to abide by the Constitution and laws thereunder, and that an agent who does not make such a bona fide effort is not acting in performance of their duties. Because not all actions which are illegitimate have a remedy, merely trying to ensure that one's actions are unworthy of censure is insufficient to ensure legitimacy. A finding that a government agent deliberately seeks to skirt the law as much as possible should be taken as a finding that the person is not acting in good faith, and thus is not legitimately acting in the line of duty.
Start throwing folks in a nasty prison on contempt of court/contempt of congress until the EMails appear. Take the IT folks first. No access to WOW for youze until those too hard to get to EMails are’nt so hard to get to. Just a “friendly” cellmate who want you to call him, “sweetie”.
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