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So I spent 4 years as a Sheriff Explorer. At one time, in my youth, I wanted to be either a Sheriff or CHiP.

During my time as a sheriff explorer, I trained with the sheriff department on their range and using the tactics of the day, 30 years ago.

I always felt proud to serve, particularly since the uniform, duty belt and equipment I wore made me look professional.

I purchased every last bit of it at San Jose Uniform, then a supplier of LEO uniform and equipment to many LEO in Northern California.

It was also a point of pride I was able to outshoot most LEO in class, as well on tactic, were you are stressed by running 2 miles, doing 20 pushups and 50 situps before engaging targets at various yardages.

I was further trained when I left high school at 15 and started college in what was called Police Science, where I learned more tactics for offense/defense in weapons and hand to hand control techniques.

I suppose I, like my family was so good, was due to growing up around guns and constantly challenged to shoot certain difficulties.

In later years, my brothers and I would go paint balling, where we quickly learned tactics that work to overcome the opposition and how to think about strategies, by slowing our breathing, dropping our hips/shoulders and quickly assessing the best opportunity to prevail.

We won most of the time but, each paintball we took caused us to ponder what might have worked better, for use in the future and other times chalking it up to "sometimes stuff happens and you get injured or lose a man.

We were fast, in constant motion and always approaching from cover with quick views around an object then moving in as dictated by the scene presented.

I have practiced tactics and strategies in my home as well and I moved exactly as I trained, through my house, this morning.

None of this is to impress anyone. Rather, to impress that this could have been very bad for anyone unauthorized to be in my home.

Some Freepers have been to my home know we have a beautiful home and two of the best buddy doggies ever.

I didn't initially consider sharing my experience, thoughts and concern but, here is what tears it for me: . . " I actually thought about my actions and what my response should be in the future"

As in, maybe I should take my time and maybe not charge through the house.

I really am uncomfortable having this thought.

I mean, I live in a gated community, on one of the top golf courses in California.

Why would I need to charge toward a danger and repel it or maybe learn there was indeed a fire but, worse: "What if SWAT had busted into my home and we both confronted each other?"

I likely would hesitate upon seeing LEO's but, I don't think they would and that is not good.

Now, I have never heard the alarms in my house go off and each on engaging.

So I don't believe there was any other choice. Since I did program myself in case someone did enter my home or if there was a fire. (I have trained myself for fires as well)

Anyone here who has met me doesn't consider me a bad ass, nor do I.

I'm just some guy with life experiences.

My family twice, when I was in grade school, walked in on a burglary.

Still again, my Mom owned a convenience store when I was a teenager.

We were twice robbed, with one incidence the thug putting a knife to my ribs demanding money.

He was lucky as hell.

My brother and I had been out shooting earlier in the day.

We brought our shotgun into the store just before we started our shift and Mom was making dinner in the back.

After the robbery, a coo saw the shotgun leaning against a wall and asked if it was loaded.

We replied "yes".

He then asked if we knew how to shoot it and brother replied we knew and we are all good shots.

He laughed and asked why we didn't grab it and repel the armed robber.

My brother responded " Forgot it was there but, it would not have ended well for the guy".

Cop laughed and suggested we remember next time.

So, no questions, not looking for answers to life but, really bothered that I second guessed what my response should be in the future.

Ow th

Now that I've typed out my thoughts and considered my after thoughts I can't afford to 2nd guess in the future.

Besides, it really is more probable that I would confront a burglar rather than LEO's or that that house was on fire.

I'm going to the range this weekend with my brother and we'll probably run scenarios.

Just unbelievable that I would think like this but, reading the roid raids over the years and learning the horrors of law enforcement abuses, going way the fk overboard in using SWAT and getting a sense of their thought process and the citizen reality but, there it is.

I'm no statician but, you are 1,000's of times more likely to confront an intruder without a badge or a fire than you will an LEO who has invaded your castle...mistakenly.

Gotta go walk my dog right but, current events (shooting a woman welding a 12 volt drill) just really bother me.

Be back in a while and hopefully the electrician will be here to investigate the wiring for the alarm and fire detectors.

Damnit!

1 posted on 08/15/2014 11:47:52 AM PDT by Vendome
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Considered putting in a safe room?


2 posted on 08/15/2014 11:52:37 AM PDT by DManA
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Cop laughed and suggested we remember next time.

If that happened now, he'd have you and your brother on the floor and Child Protective Services going after your mom.

3 posted on 08/15/2014 11:54:10 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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This morning, the alarms in my house went off.

Just hit the snooze buttons

4 posted on 08/15/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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Tough question here. I wonder too. I have the clearance to view the street from many rooms, so I would be able to see hopefully, a half dozen LEO cars.

Kind of thinking, if they're not present, I'm clear to engage.

But I also know my three dogs WILL engage regardless ! How to handle that ? If LEO, I'm worried about them getting popped.

If not, again, I'm happy they're turning loose.

It's a crap sandwich, either way

5 posted on 08/15/2014 11:56:25 AM PDT by onona (meh)
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Still better than staggering to the front door still half asleep to turn off the alarm WITHOUT your weapon! Which I have done.....


6 posted on 08/15/2014 11:58:11 AM PDT by Envisioning (My desire to be well informed is at odds with my desire to remain sane....)
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Boiled down, you done just right I’d say.

The correct response to an alarm indicating an intruder is high alert, condition one.


7 posted on 08/15/2014 12:01:27 PM PDT by humblegunner
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Get a dog that barks.

Call it early warning.

Somebody kicks in the door and starts shooting the dogs you know it’s the cops.


8 posted on 08/15/2014 12:02:43 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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Nothing beats having thought out a couple of semi-concealed defensive positions from where you can determine just where an entry may have breached the alarm.

The loud alarm in my house is certainly going to impact someone entering — they are either going to try and be quick in going through my place or skeedaddle. If I am ready to apply a light from a defensive position, then I can know who it is and react appropriately.


9 posted on 08/15/2014 12:02:47 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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Practice until it hurts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNcrysTdKKc


10 posted on 08/15/2014 12:04:14 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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You did not mention if you had others living with you.

Instruct them to stay out of your way and in their rooms when the alarm goes off.

You do not want a mishap to happen that you will regret the rest of your life.


11 posted on 08/15/2014 12:05:03 PM PDT by 353FMG
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I think about that alot too.
What if someone kicked my front door in and I start shooting? If its a cop, I get the death penalty.
If I miss or if the next cop through the door fires at me, well I was a threat so they had to fire. The cop is commended.


12 posted on 08/15/2014 12:05:23 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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I know very little about weaponry, plan on receiving handgun training early next year. But my first thought is so basic, you may have already considered it. Why not have cameras or monitor systems for corridors, entrances and main areas of the house such as bedrooms, living rooms and the surrounding perimeters of your home? There could be a monitor panel in your bedroom and elsewhere on a different storey


15 posted on 08/15/2014 12:10:52 PM PDT by lee martell
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My alarm went of at about 3:00 AM this morning. I got and as soon as I entered the room the dogs were in they quit barking and I turned on the porch light. Nothing was there so I went back to bed. This is the kind of work that is best contracted out, to dogs.


16 posted on 08/15/2014 12:15:51 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Need one alarm sound for fire, and another sound for an intruder. If there is a raging fire, you really don’t want to slowly creep around the house. Keep a fire extinguisher under your bed.


18 posted on 08/15/2014 12:22:02 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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Security cameras inside and out. The thing about interior cameras is loss of privacy.

A cop buddy once told me that the best approach often is to take cover and wait for the intruder to come within view. Better to see him first while under cover than the other way around.


19 posted on 08/15/2014 12:22:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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I’m sad we have to weigh these kinds of decisions. It shouldn’t be this way - not for us - or for you in the quiet of the morning. Something is really wrong in this county.


20 posted on 08/15/2014 12:25:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (Just remember, loot the liberals' houses, they don't have guns. - Freeper dfwgator)
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First, I would suggest you have distinctly different alarms for fire and break in, since your response should be entirely different. If it’s a fire you obviously want to get your family and pets (if practical) out.

If it’s a break in, charging through your house is probably a bad idea. You don’t know what the tactical situation is. There could be more than one intruder, let alone a SWAT team gone to the wrong house. Some alarm companies put cameras around the house so you can monitor it from your cell phone. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to get some.

You didn’t say if you have children at home, and that makes a huge difference as well. If you have kids, your priority is obviously to keep them safe. You should first get you family together in one room, behind furniture, with a gun trained at the door. If it’s just you and your spouse, you’re better off doing that straight off, and calling 911. It’s too easy for someone to shoot you as you come through a doorway. Better for you to shoot them coming through your doorway.


22 posted on 08/15/2014 12:26:04 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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I would seriously consider different tones for your fire and burglar alarms. Both are potentially life threatening emergencies requiring very different actions. If you do and they went off simultaneously, I’d have that checked. Beyond that, if you’re in an area where a police response can be expected in a “reasonable” amount of time, I prefer a safe/panic room (on each floor) with family and even dogs assembling inside. If need be you’ll be in a better defensive position than prowling around the house. Even the most justified shooting is going to cost you dearly in legal bills these days.


23 posted on 08/15/2014 12:28:12 PM PDT by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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i’d beef up your door security, put deeper screws into the hinges and striker plate. if you have hollow core doors maybe upgrade them too.
not to stop rounds but to give yourself a few’more’seconds to get’your gun and get ready, or to get a vest on.

and have a vest handy and ready to go. also a bright tactical light.

one thing people may not realize is effective peper spray is in enclosed areas. even before going into a room or area you can unleash some’spray.

i know it’s your house but life or death situations it might help.


24 posted on 08/15/2014 12:28:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Always be on the lookout for suspicious white guys.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/all-home-intruders-are-white-men-alarm-companies-say-t13969.html


26 posted on 08/15/2014 12:30:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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