Posted on 08/14/2014 12:22:28 PM PDT by Kaslin
WASHINGTON -- Is it not a thing of wonderment that the two leading families of the Party of the Poor and Down-and-Out are ending the summer in Martha's Vineyard? Both the Obamas and the Clintons are renting spacious mansions, probably from Wall Streeters, on that enchanted isle. They're playing golf and tennis, and -- who knows -- croquet, just like the Rockefellers or Vanderbilts. Yet do not expect them to be dining together in the moonlight. In fact, relations between them have turned downright hostile.
Hillary this week has made it all but final. She is a neoconservative, a genuine, 24-carat neoconservative! She has all the credentials. Back in the 1970s, Irving Kristol, the official godfather of neoconservatism, defined a neoconservative as a liberal who has been mugged by reality. By that definition, a mere believer in muscular foreign policy pronouncements is no neoconservative. Perhaps he or she is a hawk but not a neoconservative. To be a true neocon one has to have once been a liberal -- preferably a Trotskyite -- and to have come to one's conversion in fits and starts. Well, Hillary certainly fills the bill, complete with fits and starts.
Anyone aware of her biography knows the route she has traveled. In college, she was a radical. Admittedly, she was what was called a coat and tie radical: coat and tie when the campus was invaded by interviewers from the giant corporations or from graduate schools, radical when it was time to write an honors paper, say, on Saul Alinsky or to deliver a student commencement tirade. She even worked for a Stalinist lawyer in California, and she worked for the Democrats on the impeachment of Richard Nixon. In that last job, she was so crooked that Jerome Zeifman, the Democratic counsel to the House Judiciary Impeachment Inquiry, said in his 1974 personal evaluation of her that he "could not recommend her for any future position in public or private trust."
I digress. Eventually she married Bill and went off to Arkansas where she became a standard-issue left liberal. Then she came with him to the White House and was pretty much a liberal, a feminist liberal, but a liberal. Finally, when she ran for the Senate and served as Barack Obama's secretary of state she was just a liberal, though there were permutations. Working as a senator, she developed a hawkish bent. She supported the war in Iraq. Working as secretary of state, she renounced the war and pretty much adopted the Obama position on foreign policy. There was something about flying in airplanes some 956,733 miles, but we need not get into that now.
When terrorists attacked our installations at Benghazi, both she and the president were unavailable for the proverbial telephone call at 3:00 a.m. However, she objected to following Obama's request that she take up the White House's alibi that the attack was from a "spontaneous" mob and "triggered" by an amateurish video on the Internet, insulting the prophet Muhammad. She is quoted in Ed Klein's "Blood Feud: The Clintons vs. The Obamas" as saying, "Mr. President, that story isn't credible; among other things, it ignores the fact that the attack occurred on 9/11." At any rate, by 10:30 p.m. on September 11, she had relented. She took up the White House's bogus line on Benghazi.
Now, just last weekend, she made the final leap. She is a neoconservative. She derided Obama's, dare we call it, foreign policy doctrine, "Don't do stupid s---." Said she, "Great nations need organizing principles, and 'don't do stupid stuff' is not an organizing principle." How very neocon! She sneered at Obama's "failure" to supply the Syrian rebels. She spoke in tough terms toward Iran and took up the cause of the Israelis against Hamas. All Obama could do is play a couple of rounds of golf, hit the beach and head to a fundraiser.
We have all heard that Hillary is listening to more hawkish counselors, among them Robert Kagan. He certainly is a neocon and who else? For now Hillary is a neoconservative. What will Bill become?
Hillary is a slut. Pay her what she wants, and she’ll be anything you want.
Until she gets into power.
Then you find out what paying her really means.
From liberal to neocon is not that big a step.
Going from neocon to conservative, now that’s a rarity.
Hillary is a slut. Pay her what she wants, and shell be anything you want. Until she gets into power. Then you find out what paying her really means.
She sounds like she is related to obama.
She will re invent herself... YET AGAIN... she is just a shameless, greedy and unprincipled grifter
Yep
She’s just like her husband. But if she pisses off the Obama worshippers she’ll never get the nomination. Every Obama worshipper I used to know hates Hillary.
On the vacation, why would anyone who lives in a multi million dollar mansion on Long Island need to go to Martha’s Vineyard for a vacation? Are they there just to take a little of Obama’s limelight?
Obama is backing Elizabeth Warren for 2016 and Hillary knows it. Given Obama’s patent failure and unpopularity, Hillary wants to redefine herself by running against the Obama legacy she was part of. This new claim about her opposing the “video lie” is crappola — the timeline ties her to it all along. Obama and Hillary share an advanced propensity for prevarication and media manipulation.
Saw Ed Klein (Blood Feud) on Varney today.
He said FauxCahontas had dinner in DC with the Clintons two weeks ago to attempt to solidify support for Hillary.
Wonder how that turned out?
You should say from liberal interventionist to neocon is not that big a step.
You may recall that Joe Lieberman was a very hawkish liberal interventionist and was some times called a "leftwing neocon". That's why Lieberman was good buddies with NeoCon John McCain. And why John McCain truly loves Hillary.
Point of order: The sociopath and undoubted Satan-worshipper lives in a multi-million-dollar mansion in Chappaqua, which is not on Long Island, but in lower Westchester County.
Look for her to get a show on Fox.
“She is a neoconservative, a genuine, 24-carat neoconservative!”
What are you smoking, Mr. Tyrrell? She is playing the role, but she is Alinsky to the core.
I hope Emmett doesn’t believe what he wrote. Hillary is acting like a neocon hoping to garner those fed up with Obama but still capable of voting for a democrat.
When he says Hillary is now a neo-con he does not mean that she has turned into some sort of conservative. He means that she is working to "appear" to be a conservative. Hey, if that is what it takes to get as many people to vote for her, "looking" like a conservative, then she is going to do that. Doesn't mean that she has actually reverted to her Goldwater-girl days. It just means she is so desperate to become the first female president that she would want to fool me into voting for her.
The term neo-con seems to confuse a lot of people...
Simple definition is a liberal who wants to use the american military might to push democracy overseas regardless of the cost of blood or treasure...
“You should say from liberal interventionist to neocon is not that big a step.”
That’s a good point. Neoconservatism originated with liberals and even Trotskyite leftists who were foreign policy hawks. They advocated the Liberal Internationalism that guided American foreign policy from WWII right on through the end of Vietnam.
Neoconservatism was a reaction against ‘Blame America First’ liberals who believe that America is the destabilizing, if not evil, force in world politics. (If that sounds like Obama there’s a good reason for it)
With the Blame America First crowd seizing power in the Democratic Party during the 1970s the nascent Neocons found Ronald Reagan’s no nonsense foreign policy more to their liking. So they joined forces with Reagan conservatives in groups like The Committee on the Present Danger to promote a strong foreign policy. In fact they often favored a more interventionist foreign policy than Reagan.
The problem for conservatives is that Neocons still hold on to many leftist social policies and they try to promote them. They work against border control and for illegal alien amnesty. Neocons are usually just fine with gun control laws. They don’t oppose and they often promote the gay agenda. On anything touching race they will be predictably on the left even though ‘civil rights’ regulations have been a major force for increasing government intrusion in everyday life.
They aren’t lockstep on this of course, but on most domestic and social issues Neocons are far more in line with liberal Democrats than they are with conservatives. It’s on economic and especially foreign policy issues that they will join with conservatives.
That’s right on the nose.
The story about Hillary being a Goldwater Girl - is it false?
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