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Coroner: Robin Williams hanged himself with belt, had cuts on wrist
FoxNews.com ^ | 8-12-2014 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 08/12/2014 12:07:47 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: dps.inspect

Are you saying that only non-believers are clinically depressed? Brother, you have no idea what you are talking about.


121 posted on 08/12/2014 3:46:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: servo1969

Depression can destroy the strongest mind.
It is pure, literal evil.
Prayers for his soul and for his family.


122 posted on 08/12/2014 4:20:13 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: AppyPappy
Bipolar is treatable.

It is nice to think that, but the truth is often different.

Some people just cannot take the medicines for it - it quickly starts to affect their livers, kidneys, reflexes, or other functions.

Many, but men especially, can't take the sexual side effects. The effects often subside, but waiting them out is more than many can tolerate.

The longer one is on the medicines, the more of a chance that the medicines stop working. For reasons no one really seems to know, sometimes, the meds simple stop being effective. So what worked today may cease working in the future.

Finally, many patients have what is called treatment-refractory depression - untreatable with medicine.

In fact, only about half of the people in treatment see total remission with medicines. Cognitive therapy takes years, is expensive, and the patient needs to be at least somewhat stable and cooperative.

123 posted on 08/12/2014 4:42:50 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: mountainbunny

Those are still choices that they are making....most with Bi-Polar chose not to co-operate one way or another. And oftentimes with the knowledge of the potential outcomes for making those choices.


124 posted on 08/12/2014 4:45:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: mountainbunny

I guess they are just doomed then. Why bother with them?


125 posted on 08/12/2014 4:46:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Cancer is a disease. Depression is a mental disorder. Allowing God to come into your life is the answer to all mental disorders.

Have you thought about going down to the local VA hospital and sharing your wisdom with the soldiers who have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?

I'm sure that they and their families would appreciate hearing that they simply haven't loved the Lord enough and aren't really sick.

126 posted on 08/12/2014 4:55:49 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: caww
Those are still choices that they are making....most with Bi-Polar chose not to co-operate one way or another. And oftentimes with the knowledge of the potential outcomes for making those choices.

No, they aren't making choices. If you think with every fiber of your being that the medicine will hurt you, you aren't rationally choosing not to be treated. You are making what seems (to you) to be a good decision, but it isn't based on rational thought. They didn't choose to think this way. They didn't choose to have this disease. They aren't always able to choose to get better.

Depression is the worst thing I can think of - you cannot reason your way out of it.

127 posted on 08/12/2014 5:02:04 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: mountainbunny

I don’t care what they’re level of thinking is...if it’s that bad then they need to be in an institute for obviously they are not ‘sane’ enough to be making decisions.


128 posted on 08/12/2014 5:04:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: AppyPappy
I guess they are just doomed then. Why bother with them?

You need to go down to the VA hospital, too! Tell those shell-shocked fakers with so-called PTSD that it's all in their heads, that they're doomed, and to stop wasting valuable resources. They're not depressed! They're stealing your tax money!

They could get right up and fix this if they wanted to, right? Surely they need you to tell them that they're tax-wasting slackers who just don't want to get better.

What are you waiting for? The world needs your wisdom.

129 posted on 08/12/2014 5:06:41 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: AppyPappy

I guess they are just doomed then. Why bother with them?

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Because they are children of God and wonderfully human.


130 posted on 08/12/2014 5:06:46 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: servo1969
From the article: Mr. Williams had been in a struggle prior to him being diseased,” he added.

No, he was not DISEASED. He was DECEASED. Horrible spell check error? Or just plan careless editing?

131 posted on 08/12/2014 5:08:34 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: AppyPappy

I am just guessing, but though bipolar is treatable, the medication tends to modulate mood swings both directions. He may have avoided medication for fear of losing his ability his manic entertainment persona.


132 posted on 08/12/2014 5:09:51 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: Red Badger

Love it.


133 posted on 08/12/2014 5:12:41 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: servo1969

After a couple of days of over the top media, I came to the conclusion that people have overblown the problem Williams had.

The guy was heavy into drugs and booze for a long time, he was hyper. He may have come clean for a number of years while his career and the limelight was on him, but he was aging. The phone didn’t ring as much, his money was dwindling, the big offers no longer came and he was back to managing all that without his crutches. I figure he was craving those crutches because they helped, in his mind, handle the depression. The thought of going on and fading into nothingness drug and alcohol free was too much. Rehab had nothing to offer him.

Many people like him have successful careers, and when ole man time sets in, they have other interests like painting, starting a restaurant or business, his career was about all he had it seems.

Funny how for the last two days, all those folks that “loved” him are coming out of the woodwork to own him. But were they all there that much, or did he not let them in. Who knows?


134 posted on 08/12/2014 5:13:05 PM PDT by dforest
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To: austinaero
How could that happen if you’re living in the same house? What kind of marriage is that?

They have a very large house. In Tiburon, an exclusive, expensive suburb, large houses are the norm.

Maybe a wonderful, loving wife, but there's just so much any wife/husband can do when the partner is in a depressive and/or drug-addled funk. Almost surely, she didn't cause it and quite definitely, she couldn't cure it.

135 posted on 08/12/2014 5:20:14 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: mountainbunny

Spare me your self-righteous drama, lady. Save it for your women friends.

Everyone is a victim these days.


136 posted on 08/12/2014 5:38:48 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Chickensoup

But if there is no hope at all, what’s the point?


137 posted on 08/12/2014 5:39:26 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Wicket

There is no evidence he was manic, only depressed.


138 posted on 08/12/2014 5:39:51 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: mountainbunny

Those of us who have never experienced real depression are very, very lucky. We have lots to be grateful for.


139 posted on 08/12/2014 5:43:21 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: AppyPappy

But if there is no hope at all, what’s the point?

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There are a lot of hopeless things in this world, do you just give up?

Haiti,
Islam
Babies in utero without brains


140 posted on 08/12/2014 5:44:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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