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US Marijuana Legalization Already Weakening Mexican Cartels, Violence Expected to Decline
Townhall.com ^ | August 11, 2014 | Cathy Reisenwitz

Posted on 08/11/2014 6:13:42 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Slyfox

“Prohibition doesn’t work.
Using the same logic. Let’s prohibit murder.”

We already have. Wear a badge and you can kill anyone you’d like, just claim they “were noncompliant and made a move”.


21 posted on 08/11/2014 6:34:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: Kaslin

just legalize everything. if crack, meth, heroin, LSD, and all the rest are legalized, all the profit will go away and the bad guys will get out of the business and work in legitimate industries. then we can all have unicorns for pets and drink rainbows with our lunch.


22 posted on 08/11/2014 6:37:24 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: driftdiver

Exactly. There are a lot more illegal drugs than just marijuana. I don’t see these guys just fading away peacefully.


23 posted on 08/11/2014 6:37:31 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Kaslin

“America’s first foray into rolling back prohibition 2.0 is barely underway, and already marijuana prices have dropped low enough to convince some cartel farmers in Mexico to abandon the crop.”

Fox did a report on it a while back that showed the legal dope was so expensive due to the taxes that dopers were getting Rx cards so they could grow their own, and they sell the surplus on the illegal market.

The Mexican cartels are also buying up the dope stores and selling their dope in the now legal market.

Since the banks won’t do business with the dope stores, it is all a cash only market in the legal stores. The liberals didn’t think this one through very well.

The liberal ‘pipe’ dream of huge tax windfalls from legal dope is going up in smoke. There is no pot of gold from a legal product that is as easy to grow as a tomato plant.


24 posted on 08/11/2014 6:39:18 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: driftdiver

They will take over US production. Violence will move from Mehico to the US proper.


25 posted on 08/11/2014 6:39:18 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Carry_Okie

Roughly 53% of the people in Federal Prison are there because of drugs.

America has a bigger percentage of our population in prison than any other country. .94% of our population is in prison, 2.9% is on probation, parole, jail, or in prison.

Yet drug use remains high and availability is easy. The police continue to ramp up their militarization and freedoms suffer.

Punishment and legalization are not the answer but neither is the war on drugs. Why do some people use drugs and others not?


26 posted on 08/11/2014 6:40:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

One thing you can’t fight with bullets is the free market.


27 posted on 08/11/2014 6:40:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Resolute Conservative

The only question IMO is how many US politicians and law enforcement do they currently have on payroll.


28 posted on 08/11/2014 6:41:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mouton

LOL, a real bunch a wizards there.


29 posted on 08/11/2014 6:44:44 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: driftdiver

“Roughly 53% of the people in Federal Prison are there because of drugs.”

None of which are there for pot for personal use as the only crime on their rap sheet.


30 posted on 08/11/2014 6:52:03 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

There you go injecting facts again.


31 posted on 08/11/2014 6:52:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: driftdiver
Yet drug use remains high and availability is easy. The police continue to ramp up their militarization and freedoms suffer.

Well that may be a separate problem from the WOD, which is relying upon professional law enforcement, something the Founders did not prefer. The citizen was to be law enforcement. That's when citizens pay attention to the letter of the law. Lawyers wrecked the whole thing by making law so complex it created demand for professionalized law enforcement. Police power made them and by extension government an interest unto themselves as alienated from the rest of the citizens paying the bill. That is when freedoms suffer.

Punishment and legalization are not the answer but neither is the war on drugs.

When punishment was meted by the community, my guess is that it was more effective, as the social pressures are totally different. Once it is alienated from the people, they don't give a crap anymore and no one is accountable for the rehabilitation of the user.

Why do some people use drugs and others not?

Lack of faith and aspiration, but then one could say that is the same reason I take nutritional supplements or legal medicines. As I see it, the real problem with drug use is accountability for the damage done while incapacitated.

32 posted on 08/11/2014 6:58:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Beagle8U

Does it matter? Personal use pot has to be grown, distributed and sold.


33 posted on 08/11/2014 7:00:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dfwgator

Someone has to do it.


34 posted on 08/11/2014 7:01:13 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Kaslin

Funny article. Anyone who actually believes this nonsense also votes for DemocRATS.


35 posted on 08/11/2014 7:01:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: driftdiver

“Does it matter? Personal use pot has to be grown, distributed and sold.”

Making it legal doesn’t change that at all. All it could possibly do is expand the number of people using it.

Then 54% of the prison population can be there for tax evasion from selling untaxed dope.


36 posted on 08/11/2014 7:11:46 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Kaslin

Well of course. Been saying for years we should legalize marijuana for this reason.

We had MANY an interesting conversation in my Prosecutor’s office about the (as almost all of us thought) ridiculous “War on Drugs”. Wanna de-fund terrorists? Legalize and regulate. I was actually surprised how many thought that was the way to go.

Be assured, the War on Drugs is a grand joke. We MAYBE get 1%. Maybe. And it does nothing to stop using.


37 posted on 08/11/2014 7:13:17 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Mouton
One state in the 80’s was concerned about its number of felony violations. It was soaring mostly due to GTA. So, they passed a law making auto theft a misdemeanor. Felony rates dropped astonishingly!

Sometimes the simple solution to a vexing problem is right there in front of us !!!!!


38 posted on 08/11/2014 7:13:29 AM PDT by Iron Munro (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government --- Thomas Paine)
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To: driftdiver
Roughly 53% of the people in Federal Prison are there because of drugs.

And 50% of inmates are black. So what?

39 posted on 08/11/2014 7:13:43 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: driftdiver

“So they’ll up meth and heroin production.”

Stupid potheads will want a bigger thrill via Mexican cocaine, meth and heroin. So soon the numbnutz will clamor for those to be legalized too. Down the slippery slope we go.


40 posted on 08/11/2014 7:15:36 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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