[rintense]

It will be difficult to find a good line that will agree to let you breed the dog unless you are fully committed to all that I have listed under conscientious breeder.

I see plenty of good family/working dogs in the two breeds I own- two from great breeders, one rehomed from a breeder, and one rescued because the breeder couldn't find homes for what they thought was a good breeding and dumped them at a rescue. Said dog also has a congenital heart defect.

[Chickensoup]

This is good to know. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have the property and the ability and sometimes one has to do something that adds to the world.