Posted on 08/09/2014 2:10:58 AM PDT by Innovative
Abbott said requiring voters to present government issued IDs is “the first step in the process is to ensure that only those that are legally allowed to vote actually vote.”
Under the law, seven forms of identification are accepted at Texas polling stations, among them state drivers’ licenses and identification cards, election identification certificates, military IDs, passports, citizenship documents with photos, and concealed handgun licenses. And noticeably absent from that list: student identification cards.
Ryan Haygood, director for the Legal Defense Fund’s political participation group, said student IDs were specifically left off the list because they fail to prove whether a student is a citizen or a resident, though he said there have been no instances of student non-citizens attempting to vote in person.
Younger voters tend to vote disproportionately Democratic, and laws passed in Texas and elsewhere increasing restrictions on student IDs have been pushed by Republicans.
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Even with an ID, you don't necessarily know whether they are citizens -- it just cuts back on the fraud -- which is the mainstay of the Democrats, that's why they are attacking this from every angle.
Considering that there are likely 300,000 bogus ID’s in Texas alone for high school students or college students to buy booze....I think that just saying it’s enough to get voting rights, is pretty bogus.
Course, if you wanted to play along with their argument...simply attach a sheet to sign as you attest your citizenship and the ID...to say that you will pay a penalty fee of $20,000 if you are determined to be an illegal voter, and the bond requirement for the $20,000 must be met within seven days of a charged offense to the local judge. And the guy who finds you as an illegal voter....ought to be able to claim half of the $20,000 as his finders fee.
Student cards are as much valid ID as staff security passes, Costco cards, and gym membership cards.
How can electoral officials be expected to recognise a student card from every college in Texas (I know, I know - they can’t - the point is to make the system completely unworkable). They might as well petition the judge to allow anyone to vote as long as they can fish out a plastic card with a photo on it. Why does the photo even need to be yours? Why does it even need a photo?
Why should anyone even have to register to vote — you should be able to just walk into any — and as many — polling places as you like and vote... (/sarc, of course)
In CA they have “motor-voter” registration, where you just get a registration form and send it in — occasionally, when anyone happens to check, they find 40 non-existent voters registered to a vacant lot.
Now why would “students” want to vote with no ID?
You won't get into the game.
Student ID omitted for good reason: an automatic backdoor to illegal vote and voters from illegal aliens should not exist.
And with plenty of noncitizen students, why should foreigners be given an ineligible vote?
Besides, you need one of the other forms of ID usually to even BE a student!
Problem solved!
More to the point for me is, try to use a student ID to get by TSA and board an aircraft; try to use a student ID to get a passport...
you won’t be traveling anywhere.
Try buying a smart phone from ATT, Verizon, etc. without a photo ID and you won’t get a phone. ATT in Texas only takes the same forms that are used under the voting law.
How many students don’t have drivers licenses? The first thing every kid does on his/her birthday when they reach the driving age is to go to the DMV. The is a BS argument.
Texas was one of the first states to allow illegals to pay in-state tuition. So you have lots of Mexican citizens who have student IDs but no proof of citizenship. They want to vote Democrat in Texas. Rick Perry deserves this because he signed the in-state tuition bill for illegals.
If I were king ...
I would require two forms of identification for voter registration.
1. an American Passport
2. evidence of residency in the voting district, driver’s licence, phone bill, etc.
At the polls on election days, I would require voters to present a photo ID with address.
After voting, they must immerse their thumb in a dye that does not fade until after the elections, to prevent multiple voting.
Absentee ballots would would only be issued to duly registered voters and be cross-checked for multiple voting.
Finder's fees. That is a way of turbocharging the effort to deport. Heck, a paltry $25 a head ought get the ball rolling.
U.S. passports should be issued to U.S. military personnel and their families at no cost to them.
Once the passport is registered, there is a permanent record of it that can be easily recalled if lost or destroyed.
Proof of citizenship for voter registration is essential.
All those “kids” swarming over the border? Most of them will be voting in the next presidential election at least twice: once in their new “home town” by absentee ballot and at least once again in their college town.
None of them will be real citizens of the U.S, even if Barky grants them citizenship by executive order. He has no authority to do any such thing and such an act would be null, void, and illegal.
Until they can remove the barriers preventing students from obtaining normal ID, they absolutely must accept them. There are non stop stories in the media about how students just can’t get ID, especially women and minorities
So how did these “students” prove how they are in the first place, when enrolling in college.
Seems to me they must have had some ID.
My understanding is that a significant group of urban dwellers do not get their Drivers licenses until they are much older if ever. However I would not allow any ID without address verification, and unless things have changed since the last time I had a Student ID, there is no address listed on it.
Bunch of babies.
Maybe a proposal to bring the voting age back up to 21 would solve this and a dhole lot of problems. This 18 year old voting law started during the Viet nam war among other crazy things that happened during that time in response
Just stop the whole insanity
Then talk about letting just landowners vote
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