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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Nice try, though FAILED...

The guy running Kiev’s War, or “Anti-Terrorist Operation”, as they call it, Andriy Parubiy, IS AN ACTUAL NAZI, and a publicly-acknowledged Banderist, that founded the fascist “Social-National Party of Ukraine” together with Oleh Tyahnybok, who now heads Svoboda.

The Nazi Right Sector militias in the Southeast answer loosely to Parubiy, and him ALONE, outside of the military chain of command.

Your crazy spin and propaganda has gotten very old.


2 posted on 08/04/2014 1:11:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

“Nice try, though FAILED...”

Failed what ? It’s obvious for everyone with basic idea about the subject that Putin’s Russia is the most nazi country in the world and that including not only skinheads and such but also Kremlin associated people.


4 posted on 08/04/2014 1:34:15 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: tcrlaf
The guy running Kiev’s War, or “Anti-Terrorist Operation”, as they call it, Andriy Parubiy, IS AN ACTUAL NAZI,

Parubiy is a "secretary" in the National Defense council. He is not running the ATO. These people do:

"Beside the President and his/hers secretary the council consists also of the Prime Minister of Ukraine, the Minister of Defense, the Head of Security Service of Ukraine, the Minister of Internal Affairs, and the Minister of Foreign Affairs. The head of the council is the President of Ukraine assisted by secretary whom he is allowed to appoint."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_and_Defence_Council_of_Ukraine

The Nazi Right Sector militias in the Southeast answer loosely to Parubiy, and him ALONE

So they "loosely" answer to Parubiy, and to him alone? So they only answer to one person, and at that, only "loosely?" That's basically saying that they don't answer to anybody except maybe a little bit, and at that, a secretary whose only role is to advise the President.

Your crazy spin and propaganda has gotten very old.

I'm not sure how it is "crazy spin." These people are, indeed, Nazis and Stalinists being sent from Moscow.

As for Parubiy, and Svoboda in general, at least they make a public attempt to claim they are moderating and are not extremists (anymore). They do not get a majority of the vote, but, at least, they got some votes, unlike your guys.

5 posted on 08/04/2014 1:35:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
Wow, Hitler's guys calling French Socialists, "Nazis".

Kiev is getting, really, really, desperate. Yelling, "Commie" hasn't worked, try yelling, "Nazi".

6 posted on 08/04/2014 1:36:03 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: tcrlaf

Russians act like Nazis so of course they are going to be labelled Nazis.


17 posted on 08/04/2014 2:35:06 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: tcrlaf

What are you talking about? The head of the ATO is Vasyl Grytsak. He replaced Vasyl Krutov in July. Grystak was originally actually from the Party of Regions, Yanukovytch’s old party.

And seriously, this whole “Banderist = Nazi” thing gets old. By and large the people who support Bandera portray him as an *anti-Nazi campaigner*. They whitewash over his collaborations with the Nazis at different points in time as a necessity, but point out the years he spent in a Nazi concentration camp for opposing them and the fact that he helped shelter Jews and other persecuted groups within his organization (again, whitewashing over when he helped the Nazis with their persecution programs). Basically, that fact that someone calls a person a hero for (what they consider) their being an anti-Nazi campaigner is hardly a compelling argument that a person who holds such a view is themselves a Nazi.

There were two candidates in the last election that were arguably (but realistically, not really) neo-Nazis. Together they got less than 2% of the vote. And even they’re not even remotely as radical, as say, Golden Dawn in Greece, which is now their third largest political party. Where’s your protests against Golden Dawn?


27 posted on 08/04/2014 3:14:37 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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