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To: Cen-Tejas; bamahead; dragnet2; Theoria; null and void
There’s no evidence that Garner was even breaking any laws, only an *allegation* by a cop who has repeatedly lied in previous cases. There was no evidence of any criminal activity on Garners part, only a call to an altercation between two people that Garner was witness to and had stopped.

Daniel Panteleo has two lawsuits, one settled, one currently pending against him for falsifying reports and violations of civil rights. Both cases, all charges were dropped against the defendants because of Panteleos’ lies.

This will be the third go around for Panteleo, who is likely a Sociopathic liar. Believe him if you want, but I chose to believe that Eric Garner was merely standing there visiting with people and having a cigarette, and he had stepped in and stopped an altercation just before this vice squad sports jersey punk, and his tattooed skinny skank of a partner had showed up.

And for any of you on this thread ( not necessarily anyone on this ping) who justifies police “choke holds”, the city of New York has banned them, because of deaths. Stop with your badge polishing, statist big government boot licking excuses and lies.

Panteleo is just the adult version of a schoolyard bully who picks on the fat kid... just because he *can*, and because he's a government agent enforcing an unjust tax code on cigarettes.

http://static2.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1871926.1405698080!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/choke18n-12-web.jpg

http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1873029.1405826207!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/choke20n-4-web.jpg

91 posted on 08/02/2014 10:02:42 AM PDT by FBD
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To: FBD
There’s no evidence that Garner was even breaking any laws, only an *allegation* by a cop who has repeatedly lied in previous cases.

Hey, I recall others jumping on here a week or two ago on another thread regarding this event. They were totally attempting to bring up Garners past in a clear attempt to smear and discredit this guy using the leftist media. They are pros at this.

But when NY city government and their police history of past lies, crimes and corruption were brought up, they didn't like it. Suddenly that was irrelevant.

If fact a few started getting PO'd when the cops history, who were involved in this specific incident, was brought up and revealed.

That entire thread was very revealing....

92 posted on 08/02/2014 10:11:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FBD
My discussion was not about the right or wrong of arresting Mr. Garner. But, the use of the restraining hold to subdue Mr. Garner.

You posted several photos. Good. Posts the remaining photos showing the hold released and Mr. Garner moving his arm and talking.

I'll take my experience and own eyes over a .Gov ME any day. But, I'm willing to apologize and admit my mistake once I see the ME report and such.

This is a similar scenario of the outcome of a gunshot. Did the gun kill the person? No. Usually the person died from loss of blood. This will be that type of adjournment. The hold was released and the citizen was breathing and such. This is a perfect storm where a person with various underlying medical conditions is confronted by .Gov and from there the result is obvious.

While we talk about the LEO overreach, the more obvious abuse is the lack of urgency and concern for Mr. Garner once he is subdued. Any other person that required a EMT or medical assistance would have be treated with respect and concern. There was nothing.

93 posted on 08/02/2014 10:18:55 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: FBD

Thanks for all the new (to me) information. This may be the last hoo-rah for Paneteleo.


111 posted on 08/02/2014 2:36:02 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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