Coupla things...
1. Who is provoking whom in Ukraine exactly? and
2. How much territory outside Russia's current borders is Putin entitled to annex before we dare risk "provoking" him over it?
I could not think of a better way to promote Putin propaganda than the statement you just made. Let's not provoke them over Georgia too right? Your position is not only idiotic, but immoral and a betrayal to liberty and freedom.
There you go! Throwing cold water on Obama’s most lasting legacy: starting a brand new COLD WAR with Russia!
In all fairness, partial credit must be given to Mrs. Bill Clinton while she was Obama’s Secretary of Statements for handing Russia’s go-to-guy with a Reset button.
BTW, is it true that the Reset button was marked opposite to what she said to the Russian?
McCain Tells Ukraine Protesters ‘America Is With You’ - December 2013
FYI The guy to his left is a NEO-NAZI
Case in point, he mentions Russkie claims of the SU-25 being "within a few kilometeres" of the airliner. The Russkies themselves claim that it was "flying on the same level" and "tailing" the airliner.
An SU-25 cannot reach the same height as the airliner, and the closest it could get would be 3KM, directly beneath it, and that without any extra weight on it such as armarments. The Russkies were even on Wikipedia trying to upgrade the SU-25 for a gullible public. Secondly, the top speed of the SU-25 cannot "tail" the airliner.
He also mentions the alleged photographs of Ukrainian Buks. But from the place where the Russkies allege they were, this would mean the missile would have had to travel all loud and bright across Russkie positions to hit the airliner, and yet without being noticed.
He also calls the social media postings "questionable." He is referring to the admission by Strelkov that they shot down the airliner, which was also picked up by Russian media, although, at the time, they did not know it was an airliner. The Russkies were also bragging for quite awhile about having Buks, all of which postings were also deleted. So Zerohedge calls them "questionable" because there is not much else you can say to confessions like that.
Furthermore, Bezler confirmed the recordings provided by the Ukrainian SBU as real, although he claimed he was somehow taken out of context. By so doing, however, he admits to taking orders and reporting to the Russian GRU, with whom he was communicating. He also admits, by so doing, of having Buks in the area.
Next, it has been proven that the Russkies had Buks in the area beyond just the taped confessions. Journalists from Reuters and others saw the Buks moving around. Residents saw Buks moving around and took photographs of them, which were geolocated to the areas they claimed they were. These same Buks were seen leaving to Russia and filmed doing so. The Russkies claimed it was a fake, a Ukrainian Buk in some controlled city, but their fake claim was fake, as their allegation relied on the alleged presence of a street address on a billboard, which, however, is not actually visible in the video (they're just making claims, and hoping people are dumb enough to believe them). Since that time, journalists and others have confirmed that the video was in fact taken where it claimed to be. Therefore, we know that Buks fled to Russia.
At this point, trying to make this a NATO/EU conspiracy is stupid.
No offense to you, pining, ... but after seeing your posting of this article I actually went to the ZeroHedge site for the first time. The people who comment at ZeroHedge are among the most demented Paulbots, jew haters, Putinistas, truthers and general nutcases you will find. There they are, stuck like flies on flypaper, buzzing and flapping their wings, but they can’t go anywhere.
I’m within a year of Mr. Obama’s age and I remember the cold war just fine. Of course, I, like a lot of others here, was in uniform for part of it, something he never even thought of doing.
Putin does seem to be getting more desperate. His economic policies are still failing (even with high oil prices). He is losing important buffer countries as allies. He is surrounded by gangsters at home and he has associated himself with drunken derelict terrorists abroad.
The problem is that we have to confront him. He's become a terrorist and innocent people are dying. He's become more immediately dangerous to innocent civilians than North Korea's Kim Jong-Un. We can't just give up commercial air flight to appease him.
The world needs to defeat him. Maybe, until Putin is removed, the West should cease flying in Russian air space and should forbid Russian planes to use Western air space.
Americans don’t have what it takes to endure a war. Most people don’t want to go to war over Ukraine.
If China invades Taiwan, there would be no involvement of the usa.
It’s a post war America.
Shutup Tyler and stick to stocks..
Russia can do as they please with no risk of war with the U.S. as long as that America hating wimp is in the White House.
We are NOT going to go to war with Russia.
Both we and they have enough nukes to blow-up the world a thousand times over.
That was enough to ensure cooler heads prevailed during the entire duration of the Cold War, when tensions frequently ran much higher than they do today.
No one is provoking them in the Ukraine except Putin’s desire to extend the Russian empire and capture the dreams of Soviet yesteryears.
Obama and the Western Europeans are running away as fast as they think they can get away with it.
Putin is clearly the aggressor here, and if any general war starts, it will be because he doesn't give up and some other players (like Poland) decide to start give Ukraine some real military assistance and drag the rest of us into it.
Just like 1914.
Whatever one thinks of Putin and Russia, it is insanity to provoke them over the Ukraine.
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The Obama/EU axis knows that it is militarily and psychologically too weak to send troops to that area. But they could make Russia pay a price for its success via sanctions and military aid to Ukraine. Putin got away with the Crimea takeover, but he needs to learn to quit while he is ahead. He is pushing the envelope.
LOL, classic.
weakness begets war...over and over again in history. The only reason it is provocation is because our president is weak of character and probably a muslim.
Putin is just trying to restore the “glory” of the old Soviet Union. Nothing he does should surprise us.
Maybe he who is not really Durden should invest in freedom then and stop supporting foreign communism and mercantilism against the U.S.A. The interesting weather, the economy, likely wars, plagues...not enough? Maybe we’ll see more fun then, until there is no way at all to keep money or be safe.