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The West's Reckless Rush Towards War With Russia
Zero Hedge ^ | 07/31/14 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/01/2014 11:16:09 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX

For reasons that have no rational explanations at this time, the US and Europe have embarked on a concerted program to demonize Putin, ostracize Russia, and bring the world as close to a major conflict as it's been since the Cold War, a time hardly memorable to many in the current crop of our elected officials.

Within hours of the MH-17 plane crash, the United States pinned the blame on Russia generally, and Putin particularly. The anti-Putin propaganda (and if there were a stronger term I'd use it) has been relentless and almost comically over-the-top (see image above, and those below).

The US and the UK in particular, are leading the charge.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: garbage; mh17; putin; russia; ukraine; war
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To: lormand

How about Poland ?
The Baltic States ?

Can we provoke them in these countries ?


21 posted on 08/01/2014 11:45:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: lormand

Normally those who resort to personal insults are the ones losing the argument. I provided a link to the article.


22 posted on 08/01/2014 11:46:37 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours.)
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To: Parmenio; Pining_4_TX

Thanks for the headsup on Zero Hedge. I am surrounded by Paulhroid/Alex Jones nutcases here in the Austin area. They are among some of the worst and most dangerous people in the US. One of them crashed a small plane into an office building here 4 years ago, killing an IRS agent inside. Now they openly support a KGB dictator. We live in very dangerous times.


23 posted on 08/01/2014 11:47:26 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Americans don’t have what it takes to endure a war. Most people don’t want to go to war over Ukraine.

If China invades Taiwan, there would be no involvement of the usa.

It’s a post war America.


24 posted on 08/01/2014 11:47:30 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Pining_4_TX

Shutup Tyler and stick to stocks..


25 posted on 08/01/2014 11:48:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ex-snook
Russia is our best potential ally against the enemies of Islam and China.

An insane opinion! Russia is helping Iran with their nuclear program and is allies with China, even conducting joint war games with them a few years ago.

26 posted on 08/01/2014 11:49:30 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: lormand
You in Texas should never plan on seceding from the US or you may face the same fate as those who are trying to secede from Ukraine.

And why can't you even secure your own border?

27 posted on 08/01/2014 11:50:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours.)
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To: ex-snook

Russia is not interested in being our ally, they are recreating the Soviet Union


28 posted on 08/01/2014 11:51:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: McGruff
If the shoe fits, wear it. You and other Putin lovers are useful idiots against freedom and liberty.

Ronald Reagan is rolling in his grave seeing how many of you are trying to revive the Soviet Union.

29 posted on 08/01/2014 11:52:19 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Russia can do as they please with no risk of war with the U.S. as long as that America hating wimp is in the White House.


30 posted on 08/01/2014 11:54:38 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: McGruff
"You in Texas should never plan on seceding from the US or you may face the same fate as those who are trying to secede from Ukraine."

Wow, what a stupid comparison. I'm sorry for calling you a 'useful idiot'. I meant to say that you are an 'idiot' without any adjective or preposition. If you'd like, you can call me "capitalist pig" or some other marxist slur commonly heard by your beloved comrades in Russia.

31 posted on 08/01/2014 11:59:21 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: lormand

You need to take your meds now. Before Ron Paul comes to take you away.


32 posted on 08/01/2014 12:00:51 PM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Pining_4_TX; Parmenio

The article was “Submitted by Chris Martenson via Peak Prosperity...”

In addition, ZeroHedge is a wild west saloon, as is FreeRepublic, where keyboard-gunfights, hostile words, and insults are flung about with similar frequencies.

Both forums evidently have a Russia Household Guard; and both forums have several other encampments opposed to Russian aggression.

Russia *is* the aggressor who invaded Ukraine.

Also, MH-17 was shot down by a BUK missile system operated by Russian agents in the Ukraine; and Russian agents strongly inhibited, and continue to inhibit, investigation of the shootdown and crash sites.

Russia has committed two acts of war against foreign nations and neither act was for freedom - there is *no* justification.


33 posted on 08/01/2014 12:06:54 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: McGruff
I won't apologize for being passionate about freedom and liberty. Those who support Russian aggression and expansion are enemies of liberty and freedom, which is ironic because so many Paulhroids support Vlad Putin.

Reagan knew how to handle Russian aggression, but now we have too many enemies within, both in and out of Washington.

34 posted on 08/01/2014 12:09:17 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Pining_4_TX

We are NOT going to go to war with Russia.

Both we and they have enough nukes to blow-up the world a thousand times over.

That was enough to ensure cooler heads prevailed during the entire duration of the Cold War, when tensions frequently ran much higher than they do today.


35 posted on 08/01/2014 12:09:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Russia is our best potential ally against the enemies of Islam and China.

---- An insane opinion! Russia is helping Iran with their nuclear program and is allies with China, even conducting joint war games with them a few years ago.

--- You may think that Russia as an ally is insane but do you suggest China or Islam? Russia is not our rival unless we are pulled by the nose by the EU or our own war mongers.

36 posted on 08/01/2014 12:14:46 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

No one is provoking them in the Ukraine except Putin’s desire to extend the Russian empire and capture the dreams of Soviet yesteryears.


37 posted on 08/01/2014 12:17:30 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: ex-snook
You may think that Russia as an ally is insane but do you suggest China or Islam?

Did you even read what I wrote? Is Iran not an Islamic country? And didn't you just call China an enemy, so why are you justifying an alliance with China now over Islam?

38 posted on 08/01/2014 12:18:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
HaHaHa- I really did laugh out loud at the headline.

Obama and the Western Europeans are running away as fast as they think they can get away with it.

Putin is clearly the aggressor here, and if any general war starts, it will be because he doesn't give up and some other players (like Poland) decide to start give Ukraine some real military assistance and drag the rest of us into it.

Just like 1914.

39 posted on 08/01/2014 12:19:26 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Pining_4_TX
the west provoked Russia first by expanding its influence closer and closer to Russia

Utter horse manure: Does anyone seriously think NATO is an offensive alliance? That it posed or poses any serious threat of invading Russia?

Sorry, but Russia simply has no right to control any other state's foreign policy, to say nothing of annexing its territory.

40 posted on 08/01/2014 12:23:00 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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