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Deception alert: Sorry, AP, 'sluggish' growth doesn't make economy 'sturdier'
Cain TV.com ^ | July 28, 2014 | Herman Cain

Posted on 07/28/2014 10:36:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Nice try.

Economic news tends to be confusing no matter where you get it from, but you really want to avoid getting from the Associated Press – and all the more so from local and regional newspapers who pick up AP stories and then put their own spins on the headlines.

You end up, as we did in Atlanta this past week, with stories based on huge deceptions that try to use numbers within the stories to mean what they don’t really mean.

The AP ran a story this week headlined: “U.S. economy, though sluggish, may now be sturdier.” That sounds like a headline someone wrote after reading the story and having no idea what it was supposed to mean. It’s “sluggish” but also “sturdier”? What on earth does that mean?

I don’t know (and neither do they), but I’m sure it doesn’t mean what the Atlanta Journal-Constitution tried to make it mean when, in one edition, they picked up the story and applied this headline: “Slow growth brings strength.”

Say what? Because growth is slow, that means the economy is strong?

George Orwell would surely smirk knowingly at that one. War is peace, freedom is slavery, slow growth is strength. Except that slow growth would actually be an improvement over what we saw in the first quarter of this year, when GDP declined by 2.9 percent. We have some work to do to get the economy back to slow growth.

But even having said that, let’s look at the case the AP tries to make for the economy being “sturdier” even as it’s “sluggish.” It’s a pretty clear case of how an economics reporters can spin their way to any conclusion they want when they don’t really know what they’re talking about:

Unemployment aid applications dropped to 284,000 this past week. The three-week average was 302,000. That’s only good in a relative sense, because you have to remember that when more than 200,000 jobs are created in an entire month, they want to throw a party. Yet we’re still getting 284,000 new unemployment claims every week? We’ve got a long ways to go before the balance is tipped in the right direction.

Fewer people are piling up credit card debt or taking on risky mortgages. This is a pretty funny one coming from the same people who complain when people can’t get credit. They’re not buying houses and not charging purchases to their credit cards because they’re broke! And that leads us to the next reason we’re supposed to be feeling better about things . . .

Banks are more profitable and holding additional cash to guard against a repeat of the 2008 market meltdown. You want to know why banks are being stingy about lending? Because new federal regulations like Dodd-Frank, not to mention constant federal investigation threats, have them proceeding with extreme caution. So the same people who are always telling us the economy needs capital to be spread around so as to achieve “Keynesian multipliers” and so forth now argue it’s good news that the banks are hording cash? The truth is that the banks make the most money when they make good loans, and they know how to determine which loans are smart for them to make. The federal government is making it harder for them to do so.

More workers hold advanced degrees. This is good news in theory only. Sure, on paper, people make more money if they have advanced degrees. But in the Obama economy, we see a growing number of people amassing debt to get degrees, only to find they can’t earn anywhere near what they were expecting when they finish school. And when 50 percent of the college graduates can’t find a job, they keep going to school. So sure, they’ve got degrees. But that’s all they’ve got.

Inflation is under control. Really? Ask the person in your household who buys the groceries on a regular basis. I did. I asked my wife, who constantly tells me that every time she goes to the store, she pays more for the same shopping cart worth of groceries as the last time. Inflation is often measured more accurately by real people on the ground, not by statisticians following theoretical models. Inflation is not under control.

Millions who have reached retirement age are staying on the job. Wait. This is supposed to be good news? Why do you think they’re still working? They can’t afford to retire! If we’re getting millions in additional goods and services produced by people past retirement age, and we’re still seeing a 2.9 percent decline in GDP, friends, that ain’t good.

That’s why I call this a deception alert. Obama’s cheerleaders at the AP know that economic news can be confusing, and that presents an opportunity for them to take a report and deceive you by offering an analysis of it that is completely nonsense.

Sluggish doesn’t mean sturdy. Slow growth doesn’t bring strength. And you’d be wise not to seek your understanding of economic news from the mainstream media – especially the AP. They don’t understand it themselves.



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To: xzins
We will know in 11 hours :-) I still say ~3%. Regardless of what it is people here will freak out and say the books are cooked. That is a dead lock certainty 😎
21 posted on 07/29/2014 6:32:10 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

The books are cooked. :>)

Last quarter, it turned out to be down 3%.

As compared to what?


22 posted on 07/29/2014 6:43:19 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Thanks for your comments. The US economy is resilient often in spite of government policy. The recovery hasn’t been strong, and is regional so may areas are in recession. It really doesn’t ‘feel’ like recovery to many. And its nowhere near its potential for political reasons.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 12:40:01 AM PDT by quimby
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To: quimby

Exactly right! It could be so so so much better but this President has created the most anti-business environment in history. And in spite of that there are a lot of positives (long way to go). That is the American resilience of which you speak.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 4:30:38 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: xzins

+4%


25 posted on 07/30/2014 5:30:45 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: xzins

Also 1Q14 revised to -2.1%

At the end of the day we are looking at 1.5-2.0 annual growth. Growth but weak growth. Where we have been for the last few years: Tallest midget economy - Worst recovery in US history.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 5:47:23 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Was last quarter of 2013 at 4%, so economy retracted 2.9% from that? Do I have that right?


27 posted on 07/30/2014 6:00:48 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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4Q13 was also revised up but the number are year-over-year not sequential.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 6:19:48 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

There has to be a previous number from which the GDP contracts to show that it has fallen or from which it expands to show that it has risen.

Wouldn’t that be the previous quarter’s number?


29 posted on 07/30/2014 6:48:13 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Both potentially. Here is the FRED chart that still shows the last 1Q14 number so you can see it fall:

When they revise their data later this morning you will see it go up. The headline numbers though are YOY not sequential.

30 posted on 07/30/2014 7:03:52 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

In 2 quarters of decline, for example, the 1st quarter fell from the previous 4th quarter, and the 2nd quarter fell even more from the 1st quarter number. That would give you an official pattern of falling.

Am I correct?


31 posted on 07/30/2014 7:12:48 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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BEA defines a recession as two consecutive quarters of negative YOY growth.


32 posted on 07/30/2014 7:16:21 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

If a hypothetical year ended at 15,000,000,000,000, and the first quarter of the next year ended at 14,700,000,000 then that would be a 2% decline.

If the 2nd quarter of that hypothetical year also ended at 14,700,000,000 would that also be a 2% decline from that 15,000,000,000,000? Or would it be zero growth, zero decline since it would be the same number?


33 posted on 07/30/2014 7:28:28 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Here is the updated graph from FRED showing 2Q14:


34 posted on 07/30/2014 10:03:58 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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