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To: Drew68

The vast majority of these asset forfeitures are uncontested. Or they later are ruled legal in a court of law.

But in the one in a thousand instance when some moron is legally carrying over 10K in cash and then has it seized, then we must all twist our knickers in a knot and rail against the system?

All Righty Then.


9 posted on 07/25/2014 8:02:43 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But in the one in a thousand instance when some moron is legally carrying over 10K in cash and then has it seized, then we must all twist our knickers in a knot and rail against the system?

Is it too much to ask the government to prove that assets seized were accrued from criminal behavior?

Do you oppose this Act? Or do you just oppose it because Senator Paul's name is attached to it?

10 posted on 07/25/2014 8:09:50 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Responsibility2nd

There are some transactions I don’t want anyone to know about that are perfectly legal. So I use cash. Besides since when in a Free Country is it okay to assume someone is guilty of a crime simply because they are carrying cash?
That’s a sick twisted mind set.

Any transaction done either with check or electronicly can and Is being tracked and stored.

I refuse to allow idiots with the “if you have nothing to hide” mindset to stomp over my Constitutionally guarenteed rights so they can sleep well at night.

This whole BS started when the wannabe important half wit LEOs in backwater USA and the Feds decided they could purchase neat toys to play with if they could steal from the public with out proving any crime was committed.

Anyone that thinks that is okay, belongs in Russia or the Middle East. That is NOT how or why this Country was founded nor it’s Constitution and Laws were written.

Just because someone can’t afford a high priced legal team to fight it does NOT make it okay or LEGAL!


12 posted on 07/25/2014 8:17:33 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: Responsibility2nd
“But in the one in a thousand instance when some moron is legally carrying over 10K in cash and then has it seized, then we must all twist our knickers in a knot and rail against the system?”

That number seems outrageously low. Got any hard data to support it?

As for why we should be alarmed about government abusing a citizen unjustly, no one ever said it better then Blackstone - “It is better to free ten guilty than jail one innocent”.

The Department of “Always Think Forfeiture”(ATF) even squandered our money on custom Leatherman tools with ATF on one handle and Always Think Forfeiture on the other handle.

One last example will suffice, if anything will. The Roman Inquisition was paid for by the Roman Catholic Church, and was tasked with trying Galileo. He was punished with house arrest.

The Spanish Inquisition was funded by forfeiture of property belonging to heretics. There were might few heretics found innocent because of the incentive of forfeiture.

Why turn our AgencyPersons into inquisitors?

19 posted on 07/25/2014 8:42:53 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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