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To: Cold Heat
"There is no Nazi party. It died with Hitler." Perhaps, but it sure is undergoing a resurgence in modern Ukraine. This pic was supposedly taken in the last couple of days somewhere around Donetsk, and is from Yarosh's Right-Sector Militia. The Inscription reads "Stepan Bandera".
146 posted on 07/24/2014 11:12:15 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Wouldn't be surprised if this creep Oligarch, operating in the East, didn't cause the Mh17 crash....he's a bloodthirsty, power hungry thug who will do anything to create war between Us and Russia...he covets it!


148 posted on 07/24/2014 11:46:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
Use your f’n brain, assuming you have one.

Stepan Bandera was not a member of the NAZI Party that existed at the time. That Political Party was dedicated to Germany and Hitler and no longer exists.

Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist freedom fighter. Anti- Russian, and anti communist. His associations with the German NAZI Party are non-existent. (ie: never happened)

He made a statement after the Nazi's invaded Russia (and I paraphrase because I don't have the quote at my desk) something to the effect that the invasion was the best thing that had happened for the Ukraine.

That is not a association with the NAZI Party. It was a statement of fact.

I will say this one more time in a different way.

In the US, as a conservative or a republican, everyone at one time or another is associated with Hitler as either a fascist or a Nazi, simply as a result of being on the right and against the left.

In Europe these false associations are 10X more common and widely used almost on a daily basis by the left against the right.

Yet you suck them up like a commie vacuum cleaner.

It was accusations like this that caused the brouhaha in the Ukraine that resulted in this thread.

You are dead wrong and tirelessly ignorant of the reality we live in, especially in Europe.

Wise up or just stop posting this tripe. If you do, you will never get a argument from me because I tend to live and let live. Opinions to me are like bung holes, everyone has one but when you write it or vocalize it and it is wrong, I will always try to defeat it if I give a hoot...

So I must think this important or I would not be wasting my time.

149 posted on 07/24/2014 11:49:43 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: tcrlaf
Took a bit of time and looked this up. The following is a shor assessment of the relationship between Bandera and the Nazi's.

Relationship with Nazi Germany[edit]

Historian David Marples summarizes the intermittently close relationship between Bandera, the OUN and Nazi Germany as "ambivalent", tactical and opportunistic, with both sides trying to exploit the other unsuccessfully.[24]

This is the same sort of relationship that Hitler had with the country of Spain. They used each other and had a common enemy list. It was a relationship of convenience and perhaps some necessity.

Not much different then the relationship George Washington had with the French.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

150 posted on 07/24/2014 12:00:05 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: tcrlaf
To repeat....again...

What you are doing is taking in leftist inspired propaganda, some new, some old but all crap, to castigate the right wing political efforts in the Ukraine as being illegitimate.

So what that means in effect is that you are supporting and not working feverishly for the Communist Left in the country called the Ukraine, thereby benefiting them and their struggle to stay relevant.

Have a nice day.....

151 posted on 07/24/2014 12:04:50 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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