Posted on 07/23/2014 2:10:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Vladimir Putin just showed the world exactly what he thinks of the President of the United State and NATO allies calls for him to rein in the pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine.
Less than a week after rebels took down a Malaysian passenger plane carrying nearly 300 civilians, the militants loyal to Moscow are not laying low. “Two Ukrainian fighter jets were shot down Wednesday in the eastern regions of the country that are controlled by Russian-backed separatists, according to Ukraine’s defense ministry,” USA Today reported on Wednesday.
It was the first reported shoot down of a plane over eastern Ukraine since a Malaysia Airlines jet carrying 298 people went down last Thursday, killing everyone aboard. U.S. officials say the Flight MH 17 was apparently brought down by a surface-to-air missile.
A similar SU-25 jet was shot down on July 17, the might before the MH 17 crash, by an air-to-air missile along the country’s border with Russia, according to the Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for Ukraine’s national defense and security council.
The planes were reportedly taken down in the rebel-held eastern part of Ukraine, but far removed from the area in which MH17 was allegedly hit by a sophisticated surface-to-air missile....
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If Ukraine already knew the Rebels had BUK’s, why were they allowing civilian aircraft to fly over them?
Russia knew the rebels had Buks. Why were they allowing Russian civil jets to fly over? It was widely reported. 86 Aeroflot flight by one report I saw.
It shows the “separatists” have the ability to shoot down planes.
Don’t forget, according to some (ahem) sources, the Ukrainians thought that they were targeting Putin’s jet. I just wish the Russian propagandists would stick to one story.
Don’t forget, according to some (ahem) sources, the Ukrainians thought that they were targeting Putin’s jet. I just wish the Russian propagandists would stick to one story.
As if Putin’s jet would fly over Ukraine right now. LOL.
The latest fairy tale from the Russian UN ambassador I saw is that the shoot down was just “confusion” by the rebels. I guess killing 83 kids is just an honest mistake for Team KGB.
Ukrainian army deployed a Buk air defense systems was near the city of Donetsk a day before the crash...making the downing of the aircraft by one of the missiles as probable as that of the Anti-Kiev fighters.
Russia, Ukraine and Russian-speaking rebels have “all” claimed the missile in their arsenals.
Where have you been?...The people in Donbass did demonstrate peacefully, but ‘NOT’ to join Russia.... rather to become an Independent state within Ukraine. The attacks on them began soon after that, ( all over the net and youtube how that went down. Ukraine Army fired on the people time and again....and continues today, only Kiev's using missiles to blow up the entire area with zero regard for it's citizens.
Do note that the Separatists are ‘NOT” firing into Kiev's territory’.....rather Kiev is firing on them... they are “defending” their area from the Kiev government because Kiev nor the US would recognize their desire to become Independent.
Separatists fighters in the East have safely delivered the black boxes which have been examined by Investigators and determined NOT tampered with. They were intent that these boxes go to the Investigators because they believe these will exonerate them........
Russia has sent their air traffic control info and their assessment based on the evidence they know to ‘all nation leaders’ with their analysis of what they have determined.
Ukraine's Kiev Gov. has NOT provided the flight paths nor information from the Air traffic contol and in fact Kiev Gov. ‘has blocked them’.
US/Obama has brought NOTHING to the table but an announcement from Obama...in fact refuses to to reveal any of their evidence.
With US satellites focusing on that area, it is very telling that US has not released a SINGLE satellite photo...... Also information from Ukraine government tends to lack veracity most of the time and they've been caught often manufacturing video's etc............the U.S. has far more to lose at this stage, which is why the full-court press of insinuation that Russia (Putin specifically) was responsible, is so vital for Obama to promote.
Putin will only invade if he thinks he's being backed into a geopolitical corner by the U.S.,.... which in fact is all about delivering the goods to the EU. Obama is dead set at destabilizing the entire World Order by the scenarios he continues to stage .....in order to fulfill the Globalists demands who seated him as Pres.
That’s a big fat lie because the area around the city of Donetsk is rebel-held territory and they would have no reason to do so since the Russian-backed Thugs of Donetsk have no air force for them to be used against.
You are shameless in your propaganda —
Where are the rest of the bodies, caww???
The Russian-backed Thugs of Donetsk promised to turn over to the Dutch 282 bodies and 87 body parts belonging to the remaining 16 but only turned over 200 bodies.
Where are the rest of the bodies, caww???
BTW did you make Strelkov's deadline and turn in your MH17 loot last night as ordered???
Obviously, they did, since they had already lost at least one plane to a BUK.
If the Russians knew that civilian aircraft flew through that corridor then why did they supply SAMs to the rebels there???
After all within 3 minutes the plane would have been in Russian air space.
If the Ukrainian war planes violated the separatist air space, they should have known they were vulnerable.
The writer is a whiner lacking a proper perspective on reality.
And then we have this:
Hours before the crash, Russia had announced its own airspace restrictions near eastern Ukraine, closing below 32,000 feet the route Flight 17 would have taken through Russia.
Did the Russians give the SAM operators an okay to shoot down anything below 32,000 feet??
Interesting but another question would be were the Ukrainian Flight Control operators aware of this and why then did they direct the plane to that course.
Because flights to and from Europe get their orders from Eurocontrol and Eurocontrol had that flight path L980 open above 32,000 feet and KLM, Thai Air, Lufthansa, Singapore Air and dozens of others were using it just as MH17.
If you read the article you would know that.
Do note that the Separatists are ‘NOT” firing into Kiev's territory’.....rather Kiev is firing on them... they are “defending” their area from the Kiev government because Kiev nor the US would recognize their desire to become Independent.
Riiiight!
"People" of Donbas put on their masks, "demonstrated peacefully" by taking over government buildings, Putin put his army on the border to "support peace". This after taking over autonomous Crimea with masked thugs.
PUTIN = HITLER
Disinformation by KGB stooges on FR and western media continues.
However, the people of Donestk didn't take over buildings until they were fired on by Kiev thugs. They were 'protecting their interests' as any community would seeking Independence. It's how it's done....... Rather than as Maida did in Kiev when they took over the Government buildings .... they did so by force, bloodshed, fire and bullets, and heavy violence. Violence didn't occur in Donestk until the Kiev government sent their police to take control...and began killing people.
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