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1 posted on 07/19/2014 9:03:23 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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How does Buchanan defend this? Is the article an inaccurate hit-piece or does Buchanan really have these views? If so, are we witnessing mental deterioration?


2 posted on 07/19/2014 9:06:31 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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That’s what I find so disconcerting about the “Putin is the Savior of Christianity”-angle. If you scratch underneath the surface, he’s only interesting in saving the Russian Orthodox Church as a political tool. Other Christian faiths? He couldn’t care less about them.


4 posted on 07/19/2014 9:16:03 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Only Hussein Obama could make Putin look tolerable.


9 posted on 07/19/2014 9:20:10 AM PDT by boycott
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I’m with you guys. President Obama told me to hate Putin, so I hate Putin.

...not sure why, though.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 9:33:13 AM PDT by BobL
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If we ever out law Queer marriage in this country and quit exterminating babies , quit making tax payers pay for contraceptives for some one else then maybe we can question Pat Buchanan’s motive.


23 posted on 07/19/2014 9:55:17 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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“Buchanan argues that Putin is a Christian and Russia is now a Christian nation. “

No, he doesn’t. I’m not a Buchanan fan, but reading his original piece, it’s clear that he’s saying that Putin is USING Christianity and portraying himself & Russia as strong believers in Christianity.

btw - this ia all 3 1/2 months old.


35 posted on 07/19/2014 10:12:07 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church are as Christian as the anti-Christ, Pat needs better meds.

There is mounting evidence that the Russian govt is involved in organized human sex trafficking. As for some of other claims in article, too strange to comment on, but wouldn’t put anything past Putin and his fellow oligarths.


43 posted on 07/19/2014 10:28:28 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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Prior and up to the 2000 election, I supported Pat Buchanan. His view that the border was going to be the undoing of the United States resonated with me. I had been coming to the same conclusion since the early 1990s. I thought we must either come to grips with the issues of illegal immigration and what I termed destructive immigration, or we were going to lose our nation.

Here we are today. Who can argue with Buchanan’s and my views on immigration now? Illegals, Islamic peoples, the flooding of towns across America with tens of thousands of people from unique and polar opposite cultures...

Sadly, after 2000 it has been my observation that Buchanan has suffered from a sort of unwinding. He has made a number of unfortunate extrapolations that I disagree(d) with.

This commentary is somewhat of a good example of what I am talking about.

Let’s look at these several comments, or quotes.

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This writer was startled to read in the January-February newsletter from the social conservative World Council of Families in Rockford, Ill., that, of the “10 best trends” in the world in 2013, No. 1 was “Russia Emerges as Pro-Family Leader.”

In 2013, the Kremlin imposed a ban on homosexual propaganda, a ban on abortion advertising, a ban on abortions after 12 weeks and a ban on sacrilegious insults to religious believers.

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Tell me which of us would disagree with these moves. None the less, in life we come to realize that people are multi-faceted. They can do things that are seemingly good one moment, and at the same time do things that are terrible the next.

I don’t read Putin as the great guy some folks do. I don’t read his actions in Crimea or the Ukraine to be pro family. They are pro-Putin in my estimation. The guy seems dedicated to elevated nationalism. My read of this is that he needed accolades reserved for those who exemplify a deep seated love of Mother Russia, and Russians in general.

Due to Putin’s actions, there has been a destabilization in the region. A border conflict is simmering. It wasn’t before. Russian sympathizers are militarized inside the Ukraine. Now even airliners flying over in excess of 30,000 feet are subject to shoot-down.

There was a time when I could respect Putin even if he did have a sordid past. Those days are long gone now. I don’t respect world leaders who don’t respect other nation’s borders. I don’t even respect our own leaders who don’t respect our own borders. Why would I respect Putin?

Buchanan winds up asking whose side God is on now? I think He is on all of humanity’s side. Those who know Him and seek to live Christian lives, are living in accordance with his wishes. I have no doubt there are many in Russia who fall into this category. Good for them.

I’m not buying the idea that Putin is doing God’s will, so the question Buchanan wants us to ponder, is one that can have only one conclusion in my estimation. Putin sealed his fate on the answer earlier this year. That’s a shame really. None the less, it is reality.

Buchanan’s question answers itself, and I’m not convinced Buchanan sees it.


46 posted on 07/19/2014 10:37:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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Russians never quit being Christian, and Putin, whatever his beliefs, plays to that. Buchanan is often right on some issues, particularly immigration, diversity and culture, though I find him untrustworthy on details - he's still a clever man. See eg, here and here.


62 posted on 07/19/2014 12:01:51 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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So this article is over 3 MONTHS OLD.


67 posted on 07/19/2014 1:33:54 PM PDT by DenverCossack
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