Posted on 07/17/2014 11:30:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf
UPDATE:
ASA Vet is right about that plane...
Vid is fishy.... its been taken down...
Ukraine has always been closely knit with Russia...so no surprise Putin's put his foot down at Nato/US interfering in Ukraine's politics and taking over of it's Governance. We'd do likewise if Putin did so in Canada or any other nation we're allied with...and we do just that. Cuba comes to mind...and other nations such as Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc, etc, What Putin is doing is no different then what Nato/Eu/US is doing on the World stage....all parties scrambling for dominance...and fair game for them all in their eyes.
Legalities come into play when no one recognizes Donetsk -- period.
by International Law Ukraine should be the lead in the investigation, but because they are at war it muddies the waters.
not according to the countries of the dead on the flight -- they recognize that as Ukrainian territory and by law it still is. The cossacks should back off.
Last I read the Anti-Kiev force leaders will turn over the boxes to The Independant Investigators who will be going to the site.
The Pro-Russian cossacks already turned them over to the Russians according to reports. Is that who you meant by "Independent Investigators"???
Yea...we were on it late last night and found it was a plane which was brought down in Aphganistan...good work by fellow Freeper at getting to the facts.
The same applies to shooting down of Iran Air 655, TWA 800 and Siberia Airlines 1812.
It was shot down by Igor “the Terrible” Strelkov.
Strelkov/Girkin http://vk.com/strelkov_info is soon terminated by Moscow in order to cover up the links to Putin regarding the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system and the MH17. His best chance to survive is to depart to a country far away and spill the beans.
more http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3181327/posts
The rats are departing. The chairman of the self declared Donetsk Republic has escaped(?) to Moscow and resigned. http://www.interfax-russia.ru/South/special.asp?sec=1724&id=521658
Ukraine was really closely knit with Russia when Stalin murdered them in the millions in 1932/33. That was a real brotherly Russian thing to do to the closely knit Ukrainians. You obviously aren’t reading any history that doesn’t support the pro-Putin view of things.
Radar and electronic warfare technicians on the Vincennes detected “electronic emanations" that led them to believe the plane was an F-14 fighter.
Why did Iran equip an airbus commercial aircraft with F-14 equipment, and deactivate the Iranian Airbus’s transponder which identified it as a commercial flight?
It was a propaganda victory for Iran. The only cost to them was a few corpse volunteers to serve as "passengers."
The Russians on here keep forgetting that.
No acquiring or firing without codes, there is no way Putin gave those loose cannons codes. Russian trained military (wee greenies) working with Russian rebels inside Ukraine fired those missiles and have taken down 3 planes including this one with 295 civilians on board. Let the war crimes investigations start and hang Putin from a tree overlooking those 295 dead.
Next quislings like you who are aiding and abetting our enemies, gulags comrade.
And that is why that BUK unit just hightailed it back across the Russian border, it is has a Russian military unit operating it.
“quislings like you who are aiding and abetting our enemies, gulags comrade.”
So, have you volunteered to be a concentration camp guard, yet? (OOPSY! Kiev is calling them “filtration camps”, aren’t they)
The first capital of Russia was Kiev..... Ukraine borders the current Russia, the same Russia that was given assurances that the US and NATO would not seek to convert those nations to NATO membership (which is naturally seen as a threat to Russia.) ....The same NATO and US did not waste time immediately trying to add them to NATO.
Ukraine has a long history of ethnic cleansing.
“Putin’s greatest worry is that [the US] Congress will deem the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) a terrorist organisation, responsible for the worst attack on a civilian airliner since 9/11, which would make Russia a state sponsor of terrorism.
Welcome back and thanks for posting the reality of Iran Air 655.
Thanks AdmSmith. Pooty-poot ping.
VERY well put!
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