Just ask Captain William C. Rogers III, USN-ret.
 Been there, done that. |
Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.
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Just ask Captain William C. Rogers III, USN-ret.
Been there, done that. |
Due to unattended package.
Yeah, first heard it from the some floor guy at the NYSE at the closing bell on CNBC, looks like it was nothing.
Per FNC: A missile took down MH17 citing WSJ and other sources ....FNC saying BUK(sp)missile was used(actual type unknown also who did the shot down)....paraphrasing from what I hear...?
Thanks Kennard.
The Soviet-built BUK surface-to-air missile launcher believed to have brought down Malaysian Airline flight MH17 at 33,000ft
One wing came off, the tail came off, and a lot of aerodynamic forces ripped open the cabin and a lot of people simply fell out of the sky. Hopefully most blacked out at altitude after missile impact and depressurization and never knew what hit them. SA-17 warhead ripped the plane apart.
777 Vertical stabilizer (Tail)
So tell me what he has to gain by shooting the airliner down?
I’ve seen that photo repeatedly shown on CNN without any discussion I’ve heard. It clearly looks like a surviving part of an exploded missile. They’ve got to put it in context.
Rear cabin door behind wing closer to tail section.
Thanks the for info....
I highly doubt it was intentional.
Likely scenario: Separatists thought they were targeting an Ukrainian transport (and completely ignored the civilian squawk code? Didn’t know how to read it?) and fired the missile.
If reports coming out about the intercepted calls and the number of heat signatures from intercepting missile are confirmed, it would indicate that whoever fired the missile knew almost instantly that they’d screwed up.
According to our information, the aircraft was flying at Flight Level 330 (approximately 10,000 metres/33,000 feet) when it disappeared from the radar. This route had been closed by the Ukrainian authorities from ground to flight level 320 but was open at the level at which the aircraft was flying.
What kind of thinking will lead one to flight plan at FL330, when the airspace below is closed for damn good reasons? What risk assessment took place, and how could the outcome from such an assessment ever come to the conclusion 330 and above would be safe, when 320 and below are demonstrably not?
Given the fact at least 23 US citizens were killed as a direct result of a conscious decision to route over this area, a phalanx of exceedingly well versed corporate culpability lawyers will have a field day with this one, to the extent it might very well bankrupt Malaysian Airlines. And I, for one, honestly hope it does, for the single reason of giving every other airline such a scare, they might actually live up their mantra of 'safety first and above all else'. Those of us who's been in the industry long enough, knows just how hollow that rings when put up against the might of financial interests.
Part of one of the main landing gear in a separate impact site away from main impact site.
From March 10, 2014...
Russian troops seize hospital, missile base in Ukraine’s Crimea
“Russian troops seized a military hospital and a missile base in the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea Monday, in the latest show of force in the battle for the country’s disputed future.
Pro-Russian militias joined Russian troops in taking over the hospital in Simferopol — the region’s main administrative city — herding staff members into a hallway to apparently “meet the institution’s new directors,” Reuters reported, citing Interfax. The report said 20 patients at the hospital are gravely ill.
Russian soldiers disarmed servicemen at a Ukrainian Army missile base overnight Friday. Ukrainian military spokesman Vladislav Seleznyov told a local TV station that some 200 troops approached the building and threatened to charge it if the Ukrainian soldiers refused to give up their weapons.
Crimea’s parliament has set a March 16 referendum on joining Russia, which has been denounced by Ukraine’s government.”
So... what US or NATO systems were in the area that had the ability to gather the following information? Did we just tip our hand regarding our monitoring systems?
From CNN:
A radar system saw a surface-to-air missile system turn on and track an aircraft right before MH17 was shot down, a senior US official tells CNN’s Barbara Starr.
A second system saw a heat signature at the time the airliner was hit, the official explained.
That leads the U.S. to conclude the Malaysian airline was shot down.
The U.S. is analyzing the trajectory of the missile to try to learn where the attack came from. The U.S. has not determined who was responsible, the source said.
Main impact site with one engine, one main gear, nose gear.
There were 154 Dutch passengers on board the plane, says an airport official, and 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 from Indonesia, six from the UK, four Germans, four Belgians, three from the Philippines and one Canadian. More nationalities have yet to be counted.
Well... if you really want to know...
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