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America: No longer 1 nation, 1 people
WND ^ | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 07/15/2014 10:21:09 PM PDT by quesney

From 1845-1849, the Irish fleeing the famine. From 1890-1920, the Germans. Then the Italians, Poles, Jews and other Eastern Europeans. Then, immigration was suspended in 1924.

From 1925 to 1965, the children and grandchildren of those immigrants were assimilated, Americanized. In strong public schools, they were taught our language, literature and history, and celebrated our holidays and heroes. We endured together through the Depression and sacrificed together in World War II and the Cold War.

By 1960, we had become truly one nation and one people.

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We no longer speak the same language, worship the same God, honor the same heroes or share the same holidays. Christmas and Easter have been privatized. Columbus is reviled. Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee are out of the pantheon. Cesar Chavez is in.

Our politics have become poisonous. Our political parties are at each other’s throats.

Christianity is in decline. Traditional churches are sundering over moral issues like abortion and same-sex marriage. Islam is surging.

Our society seems to be disintegrating. Over 40 percent of all births now are illegitimate. Among Hispanics, the figure is 52 percent. Among African-Americans, 73 percent.

And among children born to single moms, the drug use rate and the dropout rate, the crime rate and the incarceration rate, are many times higher than among children born to married parents.

If a country is a land of defined and defended borders, within which resides a people of a common ancestry, history, language, faith, culture and traditions, in what sense are we Americans one nation and one people today?

.... As for what our founding documents mean, even the Supreme Court does not agree.

More and more, 21st-century America seems to meet rather well Metternich’s depiction of Italy – [we're just] “a geographic expression.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: Psiman

In order for Lee to be a traitor, he would have had to consider the United States to be his country. Like most people in the older states he considered his state to be his “country”, and the USA to be a collection of countries. Westerners were more likely to view the USA as their country because they moved from one state to another.


41 posted on 07/16/2014 3:30:12 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Hugin
You say: On the contrary, for those pushing succession it was always about slavery at the bottom of everything else. They knew Lincoln's position was to allow no more slave states, and they believed if they didn't suceed free states would have such a numerical advantage in Congress that it would ultimately lead to abolition. Whether that was actually Lincoln's design is debatable. Whether the leaders of the secessionist movement believed it was is not. Just read the speeches of the secessionist leaders.

So, would not the Southern States, whose economy depended on slavery be justified in leaving a Union they had joined voluntarily with slavery a basic foundation of it, when a certain segment decided to fundamentally change the basic axioms of the agreement?

Answer carefully. Because the Obamunists are equally outraged over "white privilege" "anti-gay" feelings, and a cornucopia of imagined outrages. If you resist are you a rebel traitor?

42 posted on 07/16/2014 3:32:24 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: mountainbunny

Buchanan is not an antisemite


43 posted on 07/16/2014 3:34:46 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Hugin
Secession in the Unite States"

By most reasonable accounts, a right of the states. But to "statists" MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. Lincoln had might, so the civil war is viewed as a moral wrong.

44 posted on 07/16/2014 3:35:55 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
Secession was totally legal.

That's an opinion, not based on anything in the Constitution. And the fact is the North didn't go to war when the South succeeded. Lincoln was content to try to persuade the south to return until they attacked Fort Sumter.

45 posted on 07/16/2014 3:36:41 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Jack Black
So, would not the Southern States, whose economy depended on slavery be justified in leaving a Union they had joined voluntarily with slavery a basic foundation of it, when a certain segment decided to fundamentally change the basic axioms of the agreement?

Not in my opinion. When they joined the Union the individual states surrendered certain powers to the Federal government. One of the features of the constitution they agreed to is that it can be changed by the means described. That includes being able to abolish slavery. As for secession, the constitution does make any allowance for that, and common sense says you couldn't run a country where every state has the option to leave anytime they don't like what the current policy is.

46 posted on 07/16/2014 3:51:24 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Jack Black

Correction: “the constitution does NOT make any allowance for that”


47 posted on 07/16/2014 3:53:29 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Psiman

At least these great men had the courage to fight for what they believed. What do today’s “Americans” do: “Oh, I’m going to sue you.” Save your anger for the real traitor - the half-breed occupying the White House.

BTW, Slavery was as much a part of the US Constitution as it was for the Confederacy, just in clearer language.


48 posted on 07/16/2014 3:55:03 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: quesney

Bump


49 posted on 07/16/2014 3:56:46 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: jameslalor

That was educational. Thanks for posting.


50 posted on 07/16/2014 4:26:46 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: Psiman
Filthy Traitor. Bobby Lee should have been hanged from a sour apple tree,

"If you bring these [Confederate] leaders to trial it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution secession is not rebellion. Lincoln wanted Davis to escape, and he was right. His capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one." -- Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase

Read a book.

51 posted on 07/16/2014 4:34:48 AM PDT by Texas Mulerider (Rap music: hieroglyphics with a beat.)
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To: quesney

It isn’t so much that our sovereignty or security are being TAKEN away as they are being thrown away by ignorant, uncaring and selfish people.


52 posted on 07/16/2014 4:36:13 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: jameslalor

Excellent reply


53 posted on 07/16/2014 4:38:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Jack Black
woof !

I am meditating on that reply ... thanx for the gymnastics

54 posted on 07/16/2014 4:56:45 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Psiman

The Civil War was NOT fought over slavery. Just why would Lincoln wait until 1863 to issue the Emancipation Proclamation when the war started in 1861 if freeing slaves was the intent? He said that if he could preserve the union without freeing a single slave he would do it. Issuing the Emancipation Proclamation was a political move to prevent other nations (England) from throwing their support with the CSA. England did not want to be seen as supporting slavery.


55 posted on 07/16/2014 5:08:05 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: Psiman

states rights
it was about states rights
we could use some states rights today


56 posted on 07/16/2014 5:18:32 AM PDT by SisterK (the great tribulation begins)
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To: quesney

“G*d save America.”........

GOD SAVE AMERICA, (there, I fixed it).

“I pledge..........., one nation under GOD......

We have allowed GOD to be taken out of our schools, and now our country and we wonder WHY this is happening to a once great land?


57 posted on 07/16/2014 5:19:15 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: quesney
G*d save America.

Oh, I think God's plan for America is unfolding, but I highly doubt "saving" it is in the cards.

58 posted on 07/16/2014 5:29:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: INVAR

Yep. The South fought because Lincoln freed the slaves. They just decided to start a little early.


59 posted on 07/16/2014 7:34:34 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Pelham

What a great letter! Thanks for sharing.


60 posted on 07/16/2014 7:47:15 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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