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U.S. Navy Discovers That Sailors Need Sleep (LCS Troubles)
War is Boring ^
| 07/11/2014
| Michael Peck
Posted on 07/11/2014 10:51:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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USS Independence. Photo via Wikipedia
To: sukhoi-30mki; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...
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posted on
07/11/2014 10:54:07 PM PDT
by
Jet Jaguar
(Resist in place.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Is it me, or is that thing ugly as sin?
[Yes, I know that appearance is not an issue in designing a warship, but...damn.]
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posted on
07/11/2014 10:56:26 PM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Modernize the Fletcher class destroyer instead.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:03:05 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
"Mechanical problems were so common that the Freedom lost 55 days at sea, which in turn limited the amount of useful data that the Navy could collect about how reliable the LCS is in the first place." To the contrary, sounds to me like they got all the useful data they needed...
To: Slings and Arrows
I think it’s one of the sexiest ships alive.
Not very reliable, tho.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Too many guns, did you not get the memo that guns are dangerous?
The LCS is a much more PC type of ship, with far fewer scary guns and stuff on borad to hurt people with!
To: sukhoi-30mki
It is littorally a disaster.... (duck’n & runn’n!)
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:15:34 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: doorgunner69
Don’t they open up those windows and point cannons through them?
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:16:36 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: Ready4Freddy
Sexy, to what? A platypus?
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:17:10 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: doorgunner69
You want to see guns? Look at any dreadnought battleship.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:17:35 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
It’s a BUFF. Big Ugly Floating something or other.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:19:18 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Moonman62
How about BUFCF? No i can’t explain as i would get my post deleted.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:29:10 PM PDT
by
DariusBane
(Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
To: Ready4Freddy
Different strokes, etc.
Truth be told, I’m more worried about whether it can fight.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:29:27 PM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: DariusBane
Big Ugly Floating Charlie Foxtrot?
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:30:30 PM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Typical work day at sea on a carrier 1977-80. 7:00am Muster on Station go to work. Two men have been on watch in the shop since 0400 that morning. Work till about 6:00pm including time for lunch. The typical 24 hour routine was working and standing 2 four hour watches. The morning 0400-0800 watch would likely also stand the mid watch 0000-0400. Next morning your watch time rotated. You'd likely get the 4:00pm-8:00pm watch and hit the rack at 9:00pm. That was under ideal conditions nothing broke down requiring extra time working. It was more likely you'd get at most 6 hours sleep in 24 at sea.
The snipes in The Hole {Boiler Rooms} did 6 on and 6 off. Only 6 hours in 24 was sleep the another 18 was work and watch or you did 4&4 of same.
Ship readiness evaluations on some days off of GITMO you got an hour of sleep. That was 30 days of whatever the inspectors wanted to do like General Quarters at 2:00am till noon the next day.
Due to Murphy's law I believe an undermanned ship is begging for trouble and an automated combat shipis just that. Undermanned except in ideal conditions.
There are other serious considerations besides just the work. Breakdowns requiring extended at sea repair times, Fire, mass causalities, illness, God forbid taking a hit requiring Repair Teams {Damage Control Teams}. The numbers mentioned in the article seem too low. Several losses of critical skill persons could put the ship in trouble. Cross training does not replace experience.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:33:09 PM PDT
by
cva66snipe
((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
To: Slings and Arrows
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:34:42 PM PDT
by
DariusBane
(Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
To: Slings and Arrows
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:37:03 PM PDT
by
laplata
(Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
To: cva66snipe
They don’t have enough people to service the turbines and clean the heads at the same time. God forbid cleaning up the chow hall (or whatever the navy calls it) and working the sonar suite at the same time.
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posted on
07/11/2014 11:42:03 PM PDT
by
DariusBane
(Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
To: sukhoi-30mki
It sounds poorly thought out by brass that wanted all thing to other brass. A ship requiring that much maintenance with no crew at sea is not reliable in combat. It isn’t a plane that can be easily replaced when it is down. It is a warship.
With the crews forced inside they have no access to sun and fresh air. It is vital to moral on a ship. Submariners are trained and rewarded for months of underwater duty. Sailors on this ship are not.
You won’t find too many complaints about six hours of a hot rack. Any good sailor can grab a nap on light duty but it sounds like this ship is so undermanned sailors are pushed to exhaustion. Exhausted humans make mistakes. If this story is true that is....
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