Posted on 07/09/2014 12:39:55 PM PDT by PoloSec
A dramatic spike in the number of Americans with permits to carry concealed weapons coincides with an equally stark drop in violent crime, according to a new study, which Second Amendment advocates say makes the case that more guns can mean safer streets.
The study by the Crime Prevention Research Center found that 11.1 million Americans now have permits to carry concealed weapons, up from 4.5 million in 2007. The 146 percent increase has come even as both murder and violent crime rates have dropped by 22 percent.
“When you allow people to carry concealed handguns, you see changes in the behavior of criminals," said the center’s president, John R. Lott, a Fox News contributor. “Some criminals stop committing crimes, others move on to crimes in which they don’t come into contact with victims and others actually move to areas where they have less fear of being confronted by armed victims.”
Increasing gun ownership, litigation and new state laws have all contributed to the rise in concealed carry permits. In March, Illinois became the 50th state to begin issuing concealed weapons permits. But the cost and other requirements for obtaining the permits varies greatly, from South Dakota, where a permit requires $10, a background check and no training, to Illinois, where the cost of obtaining a permit comes to more than $600 when the fee and cost of training programs are taken into account.
Six states don’t require a permit for legal gun owners to conceal their weapons, and Lott notes those states have some of the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.
The real measure of the deterrent effect of concealed carry permits, according to Lott, is not laws on the books, but the percentage of a given state’s population that holds the permits. In 10 states, more
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An armed society is a polite society.
One real reason that crime might drop is that if a criminal picks on someone with a concealed carry, they might end up dead.
Thus one less criminal to commit crimes... Also his friends might be timid about committing crimes...
..’the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed....”
“Six states don’t require a permit for legal gun owners to conceal their weapons” - anyone know which 6?
Some societies are “better” in terms of violence so they can actually have gun bans and comparatively low crime rates. (Japan for instance, Great Britain before the Religion of Pieces Invasion).
However, any society that is like ours and has a constant stream of people comming in from other cultures and slowly assimilating cannot have such policies as the rule of strength is still in effect and the criminal having a fear of citizen fighting back is the first line of defense against violent crime.
Countries that at one time were mostly civil and decided to eschew their citizens rights to self defense will descend into criminal chaos if they do not take serious draconian steps to limit immigration and maintain a culture of honor.
This is why the USA needs to retain the 2nd amendment now more than ever.
People point to countries like Japan as success stories when they talk about Gun control, but that is only partially right. Japan has a monolithic culture and that culture is very rigid, honor and duty based. The culture itself is backwards is some respects but is very rigid in terms of certain societal norms that make a disarmed society “more” possible. However they still have issues with gun crimes and those being guns in the employ of the criminal gangs called Yakuza. And a decent amount of this corruption runs into the governmental structures. However they manage to make having a gun free country viable, for now.....
If as the gun control advocates want us to be more like Japan it is only the result they want, and not the prequisites. They would also have to lobby for borders that are always completely close and a government that actually cares about re-establishing strict cultural norms and a rigid system to hold it all up.
I haven’t see any gun crontrol advocates anywhere arguing anywhere to make the USA into a Rigid Monoculture with Virtually no immigration compared to the last 200 years.
Because a vast majority of Gun Control advocates still want to hang onto their Cultural Marxism and Suicidal Multiculturalism...
Japan and South Korea are practically the ONLY anomolies that map...
India don’t count as too many people there are too poor to own a gun and I don’t trust the stats from some of the others either that are green in both maps.
The only reason Japan and South korea is on that map is because they both guard their Border and Culture and Language jelously.
An armed society is a polite society.
If a Society is not already Polite, Arming that society will make it by necessity a Polite Society.
A longer winded expansion of that.
Thanks.
The statistics are real and you have to consider culture also has an effect.
(OFF TOPIC ... watching full reruns of Hawaii 5O (classic), in season 12 (last season) about episode 5 McGarret does a rant show on gun control...bad guy kills good guy, same gun later little brother uses it to shoot little sister, then bad guy accidentally shoots girlfriend ... and in the end of the show a 5 minute rant stating “That nonsense about Guns don’t kill people, people do ... is nothing but that ...nonsense! And if the guns were off the streets none of this would be happening.” I couldn’t believe my ears! I’ve loved the series, but turned it off right there. No wonder that was Jack Lord’s last season. What a disappointment.)
I get annoyed whenever these articles state that all 50 state now issue carry permits. There are several “may issue” states which in practice do not issue permits: NJ is notorious, and MD is about the same. MA has been getting more restrictive, and NY apparently depends on which county one lives in.
NJ has a pretense of issuing permits, but in practice does NOT.
CT is also a “may issue” state, but they actually DO issue permits, though the procedure is somewhat complicated and time consuming, and requires three checks to different agencies. But if one persists, and has no criminal record, the permit finally comes through.
I was surprised to read "6" instead of "4".
Vermont has very few gun laws and has never required a permit to carry concealed and does not issue them.
Alaska and Arizona have relatively recently changed their gun laws so that a concealed carry permit is no longer required. Permits are still issued so that residents can take advantage of reciprocity laws in other states.
Wyoming only recently changed their law so that permits are no longer required but I believe it only applies to Wyoming residents.
The linked article mentions a "majority of Montana" but I am unaware of what their laws are.
That still leaves a sixth state. I have no idea to what the article may be referring.
Posts 10 and 14 have that information - thanks.
They forgot to twist the headline. Normally they flip it to read “Gun permits up despite decrease in homicides.”
More guns = Less Death Ping!
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