[ROCKLOBSTER]

whole grains, nuts, fruits, poultry, and other types of foods and beverages can also be important to a balanced diet. I have no idea what type of nutritional advice that you have been advocating.

About the same as you suggested.

But I think that those who advocate "cutting carbs" are speaking with the understanding that junk foods are essentially straight starch or sugar...or both. Same with sodas.

I do, however, differentiate between vegetables and fruit. Most of what you need can be derived from vegetables, many or most fruits contain enough sugar to fatten you up if you eat a lot of them. Especially orange juice.

Then there's beer.

[hummingbird]

"....many or most fruits contain enough sugar to fatten you up if you eat a lot of them. Especially orange juice."

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I've read that it is better to eat the orange than drink the orange juice. I'm not sure why. Maybe the juice is more concentrated.