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End the McDaniel Kook-Fest (concern troll zot fest is just getting started)
The Neshoba Democrat ^ | 7/1/14 | Editorial

Posted on 07/02/2014 6:13:19 AM PDT by koanhead

Conservatism in Mississippi faces a rocky and critically defining period ahead after the GOP Senate primary bloodbath.

There are many good people - red, yellow, black and white, tea party and establishment - in Mississippi who are concerned about better public policy that will involve, among other things, - and most importantly - smaller, limited government.

If anybody can bring us together, Thad can. He's spent his entire career building and tending relationships like a master rose gardener. But the party must step up, too.

The next six years will shape the future of America, and Mississippi needs to be a part, for the sake of our Republic.

We will not get into the train wreck of the Cochran campaign now, but some remarkable people did some remarkable things over the last two weeks to pull off a remarkable win.

Without marching orders, individual Mississippians just went to work for Thad, from Oxford to Madison to the Coast, and gradually the heavy artillery arrived with reinforcements.

Strong leadership from the top down matters now more than ever. There's no place for the cowardly because somebody is going to have to pick up the pieces and put the party back together with more diversity.

With an unusual assist from African-American voters and other Democrats who feared the extremes of his opponent, Sen. Thad Cochran beat back a spirited challenge from state Sen. Chris McDaniel, triumphing in a Republican run-off and defeating the tea party, where the movement's hopes were brightest.

McDaniel, speaking in Hattiesburg, was angry and it showed. "There is something a bit strange, there is something a bit unusual about a Republican primary that's decided by liberal Democrats," he said.

He accused Cochran of abandoning the conservative movement, as he and his supporters have all along.

"So much for principles," he said.

We wonder what makes Mr. McDaniel believe African-Americans and other Democrats can't be principled as well.

It was an extraordinary end to a wild campaign, with Republicans standing up for the rights of black Democrats, and with cash-rich national tea party groups crying foul in defeat.

The bitter gush of fury and vitriol from McDaniel supporters after the defeat was, no doubt, brought on by Mr. McDaniel himself with the combative post-election speech where he refused to concede.

The right thing was to concede and start working for the good of our state and our nation, given such a wide margin of loss.

Meanwhile, his supporters continue to alienate voters, as if a Democrat's vote is dirty or unacceptable, not good enough.

We are done with those days. A vote is a vote. Good for Sen. Cochran for reaching out to Democrats.

Mr. Cochran is more likely to bring about change in Washington with that tone than one advocating the establishment of a pure race or party with a litmus test. Stick to public policy and get the government out of our lives.

Last Tuesday, Democratic voters trickled out of the Court Street United Methodist Church in downtown Hattiesburg, saying they had voted for a Republican for the first time in their lives - Thad Cochran.

So we have some Mississippians who voted Republican for the first time in their lives. So they vote once. Then it's twice in November.

All of a sudden, they're comfortable in their new shoes and the GOP is growing. Pro-life, like-minded African Americans are flocking in droves, embracing smaller, limited government and focused on ending the destructive cycle of poverty.

McDaniel supporters could simply try being gracious in defeat - and some reasonable and moderate supporters like Madison's Russ Latino have.

"Be advised though that there is a growing sentiment among conservatives that there isn't much of a distinction between the moderate Republican and the Democrat and that considerations like majorities aren't as compelling as they once were where Republicans have squandered majorities in the past," wrote our sometime op-ed columnist Latino to his friends who supported Sen. Cochran. "This sentiment is compounded when you win an election with what is at least perceived of as Democrat messaging."

He goes on to close: "All of this leads to great consternation over the general election. If you don't want us to be a part of your party, why should we vote for you? Understand, this is not a threat on my part.

"I want you to 'get' the level of anger and frustration and seriously consider the impact of telling people like me to go fly a kite. It hasn't been everyone, but now is not the time for Cochran supporters to be glib.

"I said yesterday, and I meant it, that the winning candidate needed to exercise humility in victory. I also think the winning candidate needs to prove that he still has some fight left in him and wants to represent the conservative base of his party. It won't be an easy sell. I'm not trying to start a debate. Just a dialogue."

What if Mr. McDaniel would have used similar words election night? But instead, he spit in Thad Cochran's face, evoking equally angry responses from the "establishment."

Mr. Cochran can reach out to those reasonable voices like Latino who are willing to engage in dialogue, but Mr. McDaniel is going to have to be among the willing in order to budge the needle.

Chasing away traditional Democrats is wrong and morally corrupt. Liberty is about the freedom to choose.

We still can't get over the hypocrisy of the McDaniel camp. It's more like selective liberty and selective memory.

For example, Pat Bruce, chairman of the Madison County Conservative Coalition (formerly the Madison County Tea Party) is a former Democrat, having worked on the campaign of Democrat Sen. John C. Stennis in the 1970s.

She apparently saw the light. Why couldn't traditional Democrats Tuesday?

Mr. McDaniel can relate to seeing the light. He voted in the Democratic primary in 2003, presumably for Ronnie Musgrove and not for Haley Barbour.

Should McDaniel and Bruce be disqualified because they fail the purity test? Of course not.

Brighter days lie ahead for Mississippi and for our great Republic if we can all work together.

But, THE SHOUTING MUST STOP! Let the dialogue begin.

Yet more than a week after the election, nerves still haven't settled, Mr. McDaniel is nowhere near opening a dialogue and he's masquerading as the nominee when he lost the election by 7,000 votes in a continuing kook-fest that includes a write-in campaign.

Gov. Phil Bryant and Mississippi GOP Chairman Joe Nosef have the power to end this. The vacuum created by the party apparatus not closing ranks and enforcing very basic management rules is being filled by the insane, lunatic fringe spewing the most vile comments and bizarre conspiracy theories ever seen in modern Mississippi politics.

The situation is completely out of control. For the sake and dignity of our beloved Mississippi and our Republic, end this nightmare swiftly.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: cochran; gopprimary; mcdaniel; mississippiprimary; zot; zotbait
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To: Norm Lenhart; xzins; Jim Robinson
They are trying to decide whether to double down or sacrifice Cockroach.

Let's hope so. If that's true then here's a message for them:

I will support Childers if there is a choice between Cockroach and Childers. If Cockroach doesn't step aside or McDaniels is unsuccessful in getting a new election, then I will be supporting a (pro-gun, pro-life, anti-Obamacare) democrat in the Senate Race in Mississippi. And I haven't supported a democrat since Carter.

You got that GOPE?

241 posted on 07/02/2014 8:22:33 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Admin Moderator

I am trying to speak up for the role of the grace of God. Not every malefactor has to be kicked downstairs.


242 posted on 07/02/2014 8:23:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Well dayung. I wanted the dude to respond to some things first....

:-)

243 posted on 07/02/2014 8:23:24 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Norm Lenhart
All I’m saying is that if we abandon half the war while national money funds state positions we are going to get mauled. As usual.

I agree. But I believe that the answer is a reasoned attack--without employing meek euphemisms--against the myopic grasping, but miss-focused, illusion of self-interest, which influences the efforts of Corporate Managers to try to dictate stupid policies, to Congress.

It is time we stopped treating the like as some form of elite. (See, for example, Corporate Managers & "Immigration Reform"; or Another Variation On Demonic Theme.)

No one is so rich or successful that they cannot be played by those who understand how to focus others on the wrong phenomena, to obtain an ulterior purpose. We need to tackle the misdirected, courteously, but "head-on."

William Flax

244 posted on 07/02/2014 8:23:45 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Norm Lenhart

Last time I heard from Rita she had condemned me to room 12, so is this supposed to be an improvement? :-)


245 posted on 07/02/2014 8:23:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Where is Viennacon?
He would have loved seeing the Zot God lay the wrath on Kone Head.


246 posted on 07/02/2014 8:24:19 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: koanhead; Black Agnes
This sort of sniping isn’t productive.

Newbies who lecture Freepers on proper posting etiquette, especially Freepers who have been around a lot longer tnan you, don't usually make a big impression around here.

247 posted on 07/02/2014 8:25:00 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Durbin

DITTO... no more voting RINO’s to turn around and stab us in the back with “democrat daggers”!


248 posted on 07/02/2014 8:26:41 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: donozark

One has to be a thug in order to survive in American political life.


249 posted on 07/02/2014 8:26:45 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Lakeshark

Certainly now that shots have been fired it IS difficult to ask questions.

Koanhead was more notable for what was not said than for what WAS said.

Chicanery CANNOT be swept under the rug. It CAN be forgiven.


250 posted on 07/02/2014 8:27:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tennmountainman; Viennacon
Ping for your enjoyment.

/johnny

251 posted on 07/02/2014 8:29:01 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: koanhead

koanhead is further proof that conservatives in rural areas need to stop sending food to the cities. It does not matter if they have a D after their name or an R, CITIDIOTS need to become an extinct species.


252 posted on 07/02/2014 8:29:22 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: COBOL2Java

Nah, I don’t mind.

It’s obvious they know nothing of the people they’ve insulted. Nothing at all.

For the record, thinking $17T in debt is unsustainable doesn’t make someone a KKKer.

Just doesn’t.


253 posted on 07/02/2014 8:32:26 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'm not sure forgiveness is what is needed for Cochran at this time, nor how one would do that correctly.

Btw, I noticed you had a poster likely lying about your abortion position back thread. I've seen him propagate this kind of deceit before, you were right to ask him to look in the mirror.

254 posted on 07/02/2014 8:34:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Black Agnes

Koan could have been more specific about what was wrong with the sniping.

But in doing so Koan would have to realize how his own treatment of the issue fell short too.

When we are up to our neck in alligators, it is difficult to remember that the objective always was to drain the swamp.


255 posted on 07/02/2014 8:34:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Black Agnes
For the record, thinking $17T in debt is unsustainable doesn’t make someone a KKKer.

Oh come now, surely you have learned to understand the obvious....../s

256 posted on 07/02/2014 8:35:50 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Murder, which is what abortion is, isn’t a new issue to mankind.

The hatred that gives rise to it can’t be legislated away. This is what is terribly hard for some folks to understand. It’s a hearts and minds issue, but a lot of hearts-and-minds people stop short of just what needs to be advocated to the hearts and minds.

I make a very specific assertion of what that is, i.e. the saving power of God. The old way is the best way.


257 posted on 07/02/2014 8:38:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lakeshark

Actually his words are there for all to see. As are yours.


258 posted on 07/02/2014 8:38:28 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Like your words saying you were leaving FR some months back and then going back on your word?

Like your words claiming I actually said we should be unprincipled (which I never said).

Like your attempt to get me banned that failed?

Norm, you're a deceiver and a liar, anyone who doesn't understand that is unfortunately blinded.

259 posted on 07/02/2014 8:43:08 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Is Cochran even compos mentis. That would be my question.

Forgiveness can be extended to someone who can understand it and benefit by it. It isn’t condoning the evil behavior; it is the offering of a second chance with a clear understanding that there will be a sincere effort to amend. And for this, Cochran would need to be willing and able to put his foot down to stop evil politicking on his behalf.

I hope McDaniel wins the challenge fair and square though. This looks so fishy.


260 posted on 07/02/2014 8:43:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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