Posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
I was furious that Thad Cochran slimed his way to victory, but every time we hardcore conservatives lose a battle, it seems a contingent of bitter-enders starts up about how the Republicans and Democrats are exactly the same, and how theyll refuse to vote in the general, and how theyll take their collective ball and go home.
Thats crazy talk. We can get even with the GOP establishment later; we need to beat the Democrats first.
Now, many of my good friends disagree with me here, but I respect them enough to say what I think. And I think that when we focus on the establishments antics in Mississippi instead of focusing on November, we make Barack Obama happier than if he got to play 18 holes with the ghost of Karl Marx.
Let us assume that Thad Cochran didnt play fair. Now let me assume the role of your father:
Life is not fair.
Yeah, I was shocked shocked! that our opponents refused to commit ritual suicide in order to allow our chosen candidate to waltz into the nomination that, a couple weeks ago, was his for his taking. Was anyone expecting the establishment to go quietly, to rollover, to not use every tool at its disposal to hold on to power?
Were conservatives. Were not supposed to make excuses, but Im sure hearing a lot in the wake of Cochrans win.
Yeah, his win. News Flash: Thad Cochran got more votes than our guy. That means our guy failed to perform the most important function of a conservative politician.
He failed to win.
Hell, he couldnt handle the GOP establishment calling him a racist. Why does anyone imagine he could have handled the Democrats doing it in November? Theyre the pros!
Yeah, Cochran dared to appeal to Democrats who voted for him. It would be nice to have other Republicans embrace this innovative concept.
Am I happy about the slanders Cochrans buddies spread, or about the way the K Street crew spent zillions to keep Thad awake and away from the livestock long enough to get nominated?
No, but that ship has sailed and sank. Winners leverage their assets into victory.
Am I suggesting that we forgo our vengeance? Never! Im all about payback. But getting even with these K Street creeps can wait. I say defeat the Democrats first. Instead of choosing to fight two opponents at once, we can deal with these establishment tools later from a position of strength when Reids reign is just a bad memory.
Im getting sick of this quitter talk about how we cant possibly win, about how everyones against us, about how this struggle being hard is some sort of cosmic injustice perpetrated upon us by mysterious forces beyond our control.
George Washington and his men ate their damn shoes as they shivered in Valley Forge. Thats adversity, not having to somehow find the strength to carry on after nominating a Republican who is sure to win in November and has a mere 88 percent conservative rating.
This isnt about our feelings. This isnt about our principles either. There is no principle that compels us to allow Barack Obama to retain a Senate majority that absolutely will confirm a Supreme Court justice who will absolutely vote to:
Might some GOP senate dork vote to confirm someone like that? Maybe, but a Democrat absolutely will. Refusing to support every GOP nominee means you are choosing to be silenced, disenfranchised and disarmed.
Yeah, thatll sure show Thad Cochran and all his pals. The only thing hed like more is a lap dance in the champagne room at the local 4-H Club.
So weve lost a battle. Weve lost them before, and well lose them again. Did you think this business of taking our country back would be easy? Did you expect a cakewalk? Well people, this is where we winnow out the summer soldiers and sunshine patriots.
My new book, Conservative Insurgency, is a speculative history of what it will take to win this contest for our nations soul, and it has a subtitle: The Struggle to Take America Back 2009-2041. Thats right this fight will take decades. The progressives couldnt run a great country like ours into the dirt overnight and we wont pick it back up in a day.
So heres the deal. We suck it up, vote for Thad if we live in Mississippi, and focus on fights where we can run up the score. Louisiana. Colorado. Alaska. How about Joni Ernst in Iowa? Are you so mad at the GOP that youll abandon this Army veteran to a trial lawyers puppet who thinks farmers are dummies?
Yeah, the establishment sucks. But so does helping it win by indulging your frustrations instead of standing up, brushing yourself off, and getting back in the ring for another round. You want to send a message? Let victory be your message.
But theres no easy way to win.
A third party isnt going to do it.
Refusing to vote for GOP candidates isnt going to do it.
Trying to occupy some pseudo-moral high ground by refusing to dirty your hands by making hard choices between sub-optimal options isnt going to do it.
Theres one path to victory.
We fight.
We fight for the best GOP candidate in the primary.
We fight for the GOP candidate in the general.
We fight, starting at the precinct level and working up, for control of the Republican Party apparatus.
Look how far weve come. Ted Cruz. Rand Paul. Mike Lee. Plus all the rest trying their best to prove their conservative bona fides to us. Oh, and Ill have fries with that, Eric Cantor.
All in just five short years.
Think how far we can go to returning America to greatness if we fight.
Yes, as I said, I am anxious to attack those who are trying, they seem to think subtlely, to blackmail/cajole those of us who put principle over party sleaze tactics, into rallying round good ole Cochran. Won’t work, and they’re not as subtle as seem to think.
Every day is a tough one, in one manner of speaking, when those who pretend to be on the side of good and the right, want to play conservatives for their own personal power, at the expense of said conservatives.
On a personal level, my life is good, God is in control.
Does that answer everything?
Just be careful mentioning God in discussions with progressive Republicans. At best, you’ll be met with a blank stare; at worst, you’ll get hostility. Steel yourself!
mrsmel,
I think every so-called conservative, who thinks that his “hurt feelings” are more important than denying Obama the opportunity to appoint hard-left judges, who will work to “judicially” repeal America’s Bill of Rights, needs to demonstrate some common-sense patriotism.
IMHO, it’s time to stop whining that we were “cheated”. Instead, we should ask ourselves just WHY we failed to be prepared for cheating! Ask ourselves what ELSE we needed to do to WIN, in spite of the cheating, so we can do that the NEXT time. Absentee-ballot outreach? Independent voter outreach? Anti-amnesty outreach?
Unfortunately, all this fashionably angry self-pity supports the claim of the Democrat media that the “Tea Party” is TOO EMOTIONAL to be trusted with something as important as “governing” America.
To win in November, we need the support of “independent” voters. Let’s not throw that support away....
...trying to “get even” for hurt “feelings”
Sometimes evil has to be punished and I’m not talking about Cochran, I’m talking about the barbours, and the RNSC. If we jump on board after this we just give our assent to these tactics and sit by and watch them purge the republican party of all dissent and Conservatives. I don’t believe in third parties, I believe in working through the republican party and at this time telling them to go to hell and casting a NO VOTE in the Mississippi senate race is the proper way to do it.
This is where I stopped. Didn't need to read any more.
I have never believed this. Life is not ALWAYS fair, but in general it is. This is kind of statement is the, "Don't look at how you got here, just get over it." statement.
If you get an education, work hard, take sensible risks, tell the truth, love your family, plan for the future and take everything in moderation, there is a very good chance that "life" will treat you well.
If you drop out, do drugs, have kids out of wedlock and rely on the government for your existence, life if going to be tough.
Maybe this is too "Pollyanna" for Monday morning.
Again, it’s not “hurt feelings” and I’m tired of explaining the difference. I won’t vote a leftist, especially one who calls himself a Republican for years, then chastises conservatives to rat voteds cor “obstructing” Obama. That speaks to who he is and what he will do, not my “feelings”.
I’m not getting even. I am, completely rationally refusing to vote for a man who criticises conservatives to the left for obstructing Obama’s agenda. If i wanted to support Obama’s agenda, I could vote for a rat myself, whicj I won’t do. You Cochran supporters are really a piece of work.
I’m not a Klukker for thinking $17T in debt is unsustainable.
I won’t vote for anyone who says so either.
I don’t even know why they’re trying so hard to get our votes, now, they didn’t want them in the primary and the run-off. Well actually I do know-they’re going to lose in November. If they could win the GE without us, they’d tell us to kiss their azzes- again.
mrsmel, it’s a waste of your time, trying to argue against the “hurt feelings/getting even” tactic. I’ve been following these threads since the Thad win, the the Trolls have been using this canard over and over again. Don’t bother falling for it. If that’s the best they can do, it’s pretty pathetic.
But...
If the ONLY way to win the Senate is to re-elect him, then he should be re-elected with our help.
Then defeated when the Senate can be controlled without him.
Oh I’m steeled. I’ve seen it all when people are castigating those of us who won’t vote for a man who derided us as “obstructionists” against the very man we supposedly sent him to oppose.
Is this a guy I would take advice from? Probably not, based upon the analysis presented here.
There's a case to be made for holding your nose and voting for the establishment candidate, but this isn't it.
Don’t worry, I’m not. I can’t think of anything more despicable than to throw the “nanny nanny boo boo” card at people who are shocked that a so-called conservative crticised conservatives for not supoorting an extreme leftist’s agenda. Then have the gall to patronise us while demanding our vote. I’m starting to think they’re the shills and sleepers.
I think it's projection. That's not how our minds work, and that's not what we think.
Noise crowds out signal, and nonsense crowds out reason. I don't know if posters such as we've seen on this thread are merely wrong(rinos) or trolls...but if they say the same thing, does it matter?
I don’t know if it’s projection, or the old leftist/psychological technique of attempting to draw out an emotional reaction from the opponent, thus preventing them from thinking logically (”Now now, instead of going home and licking your wounds, letting your hurt feelings get the best of you, why don’t you join us”). It’s very condescending and Alinsky-like.
Wow. Questioning someone's conservative ethos, rationalization skills and patriotism all in the first sentence....... just because they're not of the same opinion you are.
You might want to practice up on your skills of persuasion. The GOPe has already cornered the market on insulting us.
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