Posted on 06/27/2014 6:05:36 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
The police use the WOD as an excuse for and for funding of their military toys.
I am afraid Obama is ramping up the Cops to be his Civilian Security Force. The Military won’t turn on the citizens but the Cops may. The Sheriffs and Deputies won’t turn either.
Excellent point.
I also don’t like the police penchant of referring to citizens as “civilians” —the term would only make sense if the police are the SAME as the military.
“You want to look around the world and see what a country really stands for, and what the word “civilization” really means? You need only look at one thing: the relationship of its police to its people.”
An astute comment. And applied to the US, it means that people by and large don’t want anything to do with them, don’t trust them, and are coming to hate them. Pretty much the same relationship they have with the political class come to think of it.
It’s truly sad. In my lifetime I’ve seen the situation go from one of mutual respect to what it is now.
Reading stuff like this makes me want to “shelter in place”.
That is stupid. The cops are not after users, they are after sellers, and blacks and latinos are sellers at a much higher rate than whites.
I agree with the main premise, that the police are getting too militarized, but making the point that there is good reason why blacks and latinos are getting plenty of attention from the cops doing low-level drug investigations.
A big problem is that police don’t walk a beat anymore, and thereby interact with law-abiding citizens. The only ‘civilians’ they see on the job are criminals and low-lifes, so have a false and ugly view of civilians.
“Iam afraid Obama is ramping up the Cops to be his Civilian Security Force. The Military won’t turn on the citizens but the Cops may. The Sheriffs and Deputies won’t turn either.”
We have history to look at. Look up the Vel d’Hiv incident.
The course was having a big "guests" tourney, and the cops were staking out the exit highways from the course for DUI. I drove up and tipped them the wink at the reception tent.
Scumbags.
Our members of the armed forces by design of the forefathers operate under a completely different law than civilian LEO's. The military is under the UCMJ and double jeopardy is allowed reaching into crimes against civilians or civilian jurisdictions. You screw up you will be punished and not just allowed to resign.
Military units operate in squads meaning someone is there to keep it honest. Cops no longer have ride along partners. I think they should return to a two man patrol of senior and junior officers. Senior Officer status should be designated as one having at least a ten year unblemished record as a patrol officer.
The mental profile of some cops is disturbing. Bad cops have always been among us. But up till the last decade or so they did not have weapons more powerful than civilians.
My late F.I.L. years ago was a career LEO serving on the THP, KCSO, and UT Police force in Tennessee. He was one of the worse of the worse. He once ran a county Penal Farm which his actions likely triggered an escape an infamous manhunt in the early 1960's in east Tennessee. He ran the place like it was hell. He ran his home like it was hell. He loved to inflict pain upon others. I can not imagine a sadist like him being given the firepower and Carte Blanche powers to act like Roman soldiers as being allowed today. The Blue Shield of silences kept his abuses from ever being known.
Cops need to go back to traditional rolls on traditional patrols. Go back to being a part of the community rather than detached from it as some sort of overlord.
SWAT Teams? OK fine. No automatic weapons except in a clear hostage situation. No more no knock raids except in a known hostage situation. Arrest should be encouraged to be done by uniformed officer where the subject is in plain sight. SWAT Teams should not be making routine raids. SWAT TEAMs again except in the case of hostage situations should be required to wear their patrol uniform.
I can go to a flea market and find a black tee shirt with AFT, FBI, etc written on it. A patrol uniform stands out and is recognizable to innocents of which cops should be protecting. Last thing. There is no excuse for WRONG HOUSE RAIDS. Do the darn police work. That means stake outs, watching the person you're after, and never, ever doing a raid on the word of some paid informant {AKA Junkie}. Many wrong house raids are cause by very sloppy police work in some cases I see it as criminal.
Warriors are not soldiers, someone said...
I was a police supporter, but don’t like them anymore. As far as I’m concerned they just write tickets to law abiding citizens to generate money, and do paperwork. The last ticket I got was for “running a red light”. This was at one of those red/green lights at freeway onramps that meter traffic onto the freeway. It was two lanes and both greens occur at the same time. I paused a moment to the car next to me go first, and was pulled over because the light had cycled back to red when I crossed the all important line.
So, courteous driving cost me $100, and I fought it in court. The a#%hole judge agreed the a#%hole cop was right. I crossed the line 1/4 second to late. Bulls&%t cops.
Not likely...
Considering nowadays they open up right in neighborhoods full of kids and innocents, shooting pets to death, which many times are in people’s yards, on their own property. This endangers everyone in the entire neighborhood...
This now occurs at a increasing frightening frequency.
There are people from Taxachusetts that actually believe that they’re not peasants...
it will continue.
this is all part of state dept’pub 7277, freedom from war. this is phase 2 to phase 3 in progress.
I agree with essentially all your suggestions. Unfortunately few if any will be implemented. So failing any reasonable chance of improvement, the next best option is to defund the police. Reduce their numbers to an absolute minimum and reduce the potential for bad end results.
I have little need for their “protection.”
I think it costs them 200-300 to repair a traffic sign that gets damaged by an unknown vehicle or person.
I'm just sayin'...
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