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Eugenics Revisited
National Review ^ | 6/25/2014 | Ian Tuttle

Posted on 06/25/2014 3:37:38 AM PDT by markomalley

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It is a small step from this to stipulating "voluntary" sterilization as a pre-condition for eligibility for health insurance. And there are not too many other small steps before the government determining family size.

And that, my FRiends, is not too far from the eugenics exercises done by Progressives (leftists) in the first half of the 20th Century, culminating in ((redacted to prevent invocation of Godwin's Law))

1 posted on 06/25/2014 3:37:38 AM PDT by markomalley
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He wasn’t downloading these kids by himself. This is one area libturds don’t want to venture into “root causes”. It is immorality and irresponsibility. Two words like Holy Water and sunshine is to vampires for libturds.


2 posted on 06/25/2014 3:40:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: markomalley

sex is for marriage


3 posted on 06/25/2014 3:45:13 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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4 posted on 06/25/2014 3:47:58 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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“Godwin’s Law”

Dammit, you made me look up Godwin’s Law. Pretty funny, (for others) - the longer an Internet discussion goes, the more likely it is to degenerate into someone being called a Nazi.

Well, I don’t agree with it. I agree more with Rush’s definition line: “How do you know when you’ve won an argument with a liberal? - When he calls you a Nazi.”


5 posted on 06/25/2014 3:55:09 AM PDT by BobL
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“He wasn’t downloading these kids by himself.”

Any woman who would have sex with this deadbeat is still going to get pregnant, just with another deadbeat.

6 posted on 06/25/2014 3:56:26 AM PDT by FR_addict
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My point exactly. When will we decide our compassion has been abused enough. We MUST stop letting libturds abuse us. We must end this abuse of charity.


7 posted on 06/25/2014 3:58:22 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Any woman who would have sex with this deadbeat is still going to get pregnant, just with another deadbeat.
Cogent point; and not one I care to expand on after just a little thought.

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8 posted on 06/25/2014 3:59:42 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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Eugenics never went away. They just started calling it ‘family planning’.


9 posted on 06/25/2014 4:01:41 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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This guy prolly has numerous std’s since condom use is something he didn’t practice. Frankly, I don’t think this plea deal is right since he’s not raping women they volunteer to become pregnant while likely knowing all about his history.


10 posted on 06/25/2014 4:15:57 AM PDT by RginTN
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Nature (God), in her/his infinite wisdom, created a system where the less fit diminished over time as the more fit increased in number.

Man, through misguided compassion, has rebuked Nature's (God's) wisdom to the long term detriment of the species.


11 posted on 06/25/2014 4:44:09 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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If it were up to me, I would pay female welfare recipients, and pay them well, to get Norplants. Cash money!


12 posted on 06/25/2014 4:50:21 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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“Theirs is not a case of concern for the public good predicated on scientific premises; it is blatant social engineering”

Umm, no it’s not. What Washington has foisted on us for decades-taking money from those who would work (while refraining from having as many children) and giving it to those who would rather have children they can’t afford- THAT’S social engineering. Generational welfare dependence of an ever-growing and demanding underclass feeding off of an ever-dwindling working class will be the death of this nation.


13 posted on 06/25/2014 4:54:30 AM PDT by Wildcat Stevens
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14 posted on 06/25/2014 5:46:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It shows how wealthy this country actually is because we sponsor a large pct. of the population who cost us anywhere from half a trillion or more yearly in welfare and/or the criminal system to take care of them. And you’re correct...their numbers are growing.


15 posted on 06/25/2014 5:52:24 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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If it were up to me, I would pay female welfare recipients, and pay them well, to get Norplants. Cash money!

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Just stop paying them to have children - take away the EBT cards and other freebies - and watch the problems go away.


16 posted on 06/25/2014 6:27:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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A simpler solution would be to require every female from 14 to 44 in a household getting TANF, SNAP, Section 8 or SSDI to get a Norplant, IUD or regular Depo Provera injections (every 3 months). When you are off all welfare, you can stop or take out the contraception.
This prevents multi-generation welfare use via teen pregnancy.
It is a low cost solution to those women on welfare who have another baby when the youngest is about to start school so they don’t have to work.
It reduces Medicaid costs for children.
It encourages marriage to a man who can support his children.
It encourages those on welfare to get a job and otherwise get off welfare if they want a family.


17 posted on 06/25/2014 6:39:35 AM PDT by tbw2
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Just stop paying them to have children - take away the EBT cards and other freebies - and watch the problems go away.

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Agreed.

18 posted on 06/25/2014 7:00:15 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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The United States, as the Associated Press notes, has a “dark history of forced sterilization,”...

Hey, that sounds RACIST!

19 posted on 06/25/2014 8:14:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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I agree 100%. Once the government decides who is worthy of procreating, it's a very small step to deciding who is worthy to get born, and who is worthy to live. As reprehensible as this "father" is, a vasectomy is not the solution, it is merely another step in government tyranny which leads to extermination of "undesirables". There are other solutions, here are a few ideas:

NO WELFARE. None, not a penny. Any and all charity should be as local as possible, and voluntary. If a town or county VOTES to have a "poor farm", let them. Other than that, it should be church or other private organizations. Such very local and/or private charity can be run with rules - no drinking, no drugs, work exchange, etc.

I guarantee with no welfare, women would stop breeding like sluts. And many prison sentences should be replaced by public caning. Of course a man can't support his children while in prison, but after a short recuperation from the caning, he can work.

Other thoughts welcome. If people think I'm harsh, and that women should be paid to pop out illegitimate children, such a viewpoint is based on sentimentality and a big part of the problem.

20 posted on 06/25/2014 9:33:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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