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Marriage is What Has Brought us Here Today
Townhall.com ^ | June 22, 2014 | Kathryn Lopez

Posted on 06/22/2014 6:52:45 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/22/2014 6:52:45 PM PDT by Kaslin
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What the old mother-father marriages are now competing against is these newfangled pasted-together me-too “families.”

With society as badly fractured as it is, maybe it follows reality more closely for secular government to recognize households rather than marriages. Maybe marriages should be kept within the auspices of houses of religious worship. Maybe. One virtue of that is that churches, rather than governments, would be charged with such questions as what is “cheating too bad” to be married.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 7:14:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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God’s design for marriage cannot be changed nor altered in opposite manner nor can the perversion of that design be claimed as a basic human right. Its a human wrong both morally and biologically for same gender seeking so-called marriage rights and benefits.
No way should the church sanction it since scripture is clearly in opposition to it.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 7:20:49 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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BTTT


4 posted on 06/22/2014 7:45:25 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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5 posted on 06/22/2014 9:50:11 PM PDT by heartwood
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Marriage and the family is the bedrock of civilization. It took thousand of years of hard work by ancient jews to make it happen.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 9:51:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Not disagreeing with you at all.

Marriage makes proper channels for sexuality and fertility. A woman is constrained to give her children only one possible father, and a man is constrained to acknowledge his children and provide for them. Not equal but complementary. I believe it was a rabbi who wrote an essay that explained that so well. As much as I hate to admit it, it allows for polygyny, although the Christian West decreed that polygyny is not compatible with what society ought to be.

Now the West seems to think that marriage is a public acknowledgement of romantic attachment and personal fulfillment.

But I can't read that headline and not have the wedding scene from The Princess Bride come to mind.

7 posted on 06/22/2014 10:04:00 PM PDT by heartwood
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Self-fulfillment, which it can’t ever truly do. Both partners would be sucking the other emotionally dry.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 10:13:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

Pope Leo XIII, 1880

People accepting ‘gay marriage’ is a result of them being conditioned to think the state defines marriage, that if the state accepts such a thing, no matter how impossible, then of course it must be able to exist. It’s to the point that although a religious group might actually believe that ‘gay marriage’ is somehow theologically possible, they won’t perform ceremonies for their gay members unless the state they are in accepts it first.

Freegards


9 posted on 06/22/2014 10:18:49 PM PDT by Ransomed
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This speech is 50 years too late.


10 posted on 06/23/2014 1:12:32 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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... maybe it follows reality more closely for secular government to recognize households rather than marriages.

A "contractual household" could serve many needs, if the contracts were enforced. This would be a big improvement over the present legal status of marriage, which is a "relationship at will."

11 posted on 06/23/2014 4:04:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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12 posted on 06/23/2014 4:06:20 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Please explain picture. Who is this?


13 posted on 06/23/2014 4:23:20 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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He isa the Impressive Clergyman from the movie Princess Bride. Pretty funny wedding opening.
14 posted on 06/23/2014 4:25:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Thanks


15 posted on 06/23/2014 4:30:22 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: informavoracious

Unsure what that means.

50 years ago this particular demon hadn’t raised its head.


16 posted on 06/23/2014 8:29:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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http://www.foryourmarriage.org/

A great site!


17 posted on 06/23/2014 8:33:21 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Divorce. Unwed parenthood. The pulpits have been SILENT on these issues for decades as the family was destroyed. Abortion was condemned but the begetting and raising children in the context of Sacramental marriage has not been a topic in the majority of Catholic churches as it should have been. Only now are they speaking up for marriage and family. Too few, too little, too late.


18 posted on 06/23/2014 9:19:58 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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There are many beauties in the Lord’s arrangement of families that go unrecognized in far too many churches both Catholic and Protestant. Leave and cleave to be sure, but the multifarious beauties in the cleaving are not much aired — maybe because Christian marriages have gotten more superficial too. A factoid of recent times keeps on bugging my head, that the divorce rates of people who say they are committed Christians are virtually the same as those who have no committed faith. This is a p*ss-poor reflection of Christ’s love, if I may be pardoned the blunt language.


19 posted on 06/23/2014 9:38:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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With society as badly fractured as it is, maybe it follows reality more closely for secular government to recognize households rather than marriages.

...whatever families end up being called, it won’t change the basic, and really the only reason, supporting same sex marriage...estate tax law...

...the vigorous push to recognize same sex marriage was launched by ‘partners’ who considered themselves entitled to their significant other’s assets at death, in complete contravention to traditional tax law...so they worked to develop a mechanism to make the law work for them, without having to pay an onerous estate tax burden...

...et voila! Same sex spouses, spouses who could inherit assets free of tax consequence...mere civil unions could no no such thing, it had to be a marriage...thanks to state governments infringing on private estate settlements, and establishing a hierarchy of tax burden, based on familial relationship...

...pure, unadulterated greed, both by government and private citizen, has led us down this primrose path, whereby we see lechery elevated to routine status...


20 posted on 06/23/2014 11:22:32 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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