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Doomsday prepper father accused of plotting to kill federal agents and stockpiling guns and explosiv
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 20, 2014 | Joel Christie

Posted on 06/20/2014 9:34:51 PM PDT by kiryandil

Federal agents this week searched the Florida home of a 'doomsday prepper' they alleged had stockpiled over 50 high-powered assault rifles and several explosive devices buried around his property as 'booby traps'.

However the warrant showed up little more than barrels of food.

Martin Winters, a father-of-three from Valrico, surrendered to police on Wednesday following a widespread two-day hunt.

Investigators had claimed the 55-year-old was preparing for 'an end-of-times event as prophesied by the Book of Revelations', according to ABC News...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fbi; feos
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To: kiryandil

The guy probably needed some help digging holes on his property, in order to bury more food. Spread a rumor to the feds, and see how quickly they dig up your property. Hopefully they won’t hold him on any bogus charges so he can make use of those holes.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 11:42:59 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: VerySadAmerican
I hate to even think it but fire is going to have to be fought with fire. The people will have to become what they hate in order to stop from being forced into a life they hate.

I can't believe someone hasn't felt like they have been harassed enough, and nutted up on some government dip stick. I am not saying that should happen, only that it is bound to happen, sooner or later.

22 posted on 06/21/2014 12:40:28 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: kiryandil

From earlier articles on this those “explosive devices” were pipes that would hold a shotgun shell. In other words, a homemade shotgun, which is not illegal if the length is over something like 26.5” overall.

5 rifles in a safe and food buried around the property? Interested in the Book of Revelations?

What’s going on here is a setup by a paid goon informant who likely went out of his way to entice him to sell him the homemade shotguns. I’d like to hear a tape of just exactly was said about all that between the two - wouldn’t surprise me if it was a Randy Weaver reprise.

The point is this government infiltrated this ‘network’ of his and intentionally set out to entrap him in my opinion.

It is a painful reminder that you have to keep your mouth shut if you are ‘prepping’


23 posted on 06/21/2014 1:48:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kartographer
It will be a FReeper who will ‘turn’ me in for being a prepper.

They don't need that. You turned yourself in as a prepper and put yourself on the list by posting here as a leader, although they don't (yet) have probable cause for a warrant and no one on FR can give that to them. All they need is some local shoplifter who will give them probable cause in return for dropping the charges against the petty thief: "Yup, I heard Kart say he had . . ."

24 posted on 06/21/2014 3:25:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

The first rule of fight club is that you do not talk about fight club.

The second rule of fight club is that YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!


25 posted on 06/21/2014 3:48:00 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: kiryandil
Winters will remain in jail until his next court appearance on July 17.

So the FBI finds nothing but 5 guns locked in a safe and barrels of food and they keep this guy locked up. Why? Because it fits their prejudiced narrative that they wanted to find this guy guilty.

26 posted on 06/21/2014 3:52:40 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: sarasmom

Perhaps they’ll go around now rounding up all the local conservative leaders so that when the hammer falls, people won’t have good men to lead them.


27 posted on 06/21/2014 4:15:29 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: tumblindice

You joke but, Burger King has gone from, “Have it your way” to, “Be your way”. Oh, and by the way, you’re a racist, misogynist, homophobe.


28 posted on 06/21/2014 4:49:55 AM PDT by outofsalt
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To: Sooth2222
"I'm surprised they didn't claim they found "thousands of rounds of ammo" (aka a couple of boxes of .22LR.)"

Right....

They can make any half serious shooting enthusiast into some raving lunatic, with enough arms and ammo stockpiled to "start a war". "They had an arsenal in their home, with children living there!!!"

I'd love to see how these morons may sensationalize a story, just after walking into one of my 'gun rooms'. It isn't AT ALL uncommon for someone to have thousands of rounds of ammunition.(Just a few cases)

29 posted on 06/21/2014 4:56:45 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Kartographer
I have personal experience with your scenario ... it happens and they do not admit mistakes nor even attempt to be lawful.


They had "heard" there was a militia in this area ... and the whole thing escalated beyond normal, sane conversation.


It got down to; "Does your mother know you're still a liar" type questions and lawyers are afraid to go with jury nullification.

(Suffice it to be, I am not divulging anything here except .... yep .. what you said ... and it doesn't have to be an overt "turning you in")

30 posted on 06/21/2014 4:58:14 AM PDT by knarf (brooklyn bridge)
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To: boycott

Was for him.


32 posted on 06/21/2014 5:08:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: ponygirl
You are now livinging obamatime, My FRiend. On November 4, 2008, everything as it once was known changed. White is now black, what once was right is now wrong. what once was wrong is now right. Up is down, down is up.

His main undoing was that he ran his mouth to an undercover FBI agent.

33 posted on 06/21/2014 5:13:24 AM PDT by sport
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To: ponygirl

You got that one right!


34 posted on 06/21/2014 5:15:24 AM PDT by sport
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To: VanShuyten

That is great advice!

I note that the list does not include any weapons for self-defense? Nor a tool kit? No ax, hatchet or knife?

And, only three days food and water?

Imagine that?

They want you to live long enough to be either taken care of, shuffled off to a FEMA camp, or relieved of your possessions by crazed lawless Zombies?


35 posted on 06/21/2014 5:16:59 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: SgtHooper
What lawsuit? You can't sue the Government without their permission. It is called Sovereign Immunity. Sometimes they give their permission to be sued, but still that permission has to be given.
36 posted on 06/21/2014 5:18:32 AM PDT by sport
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To: kiryandil
Winters allegedly told an undercover agent he had 50 AR-15 rifles buried on his property and other properties.

There you are. The Fight Club mantra is apt.

As is "loose lips sink ships". Pretty good advice to not be braggartly telling tall tales to strangers.

In this day & age, they just may very well be an 'agent'...

37 posted on 06/21/2014 5:22:21 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: kiryandil
Federal Thought Crime Police Capture White Christian

Arrested For Talking Too Much To Federal Rat


38 posted on 06/21/2014 5:35:41 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: kiryandil
...they alleged had stockpiled over 50 high-powered assault rifles...

So how many guns are we peasants "allowed" to have?

39 posted on 06/21/2014 5:41:19 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: boycott
Is that illegal?

Believing in The Bible and not obama?

It would appear so...

40 posted on 06/21/2014 5:57:26 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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