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To: woofie

For another 50-60 years do not bother trying to install democracy in the middle-east. May be by then all the adults in charge will be dead and the new generation exposed to Facebook & twitter will think different. Just may be.

The reason is it has everything to do with religion of Islam which as you correctly say is antithesis of democracy. India was never a democracy before 1947, it was ruled by kingdoms since 4000 years ago. But now it is the worlds largest democracy for continuous 67 years without military coup’s or other “benevolent” dictators. Why? Because 85% of Indians are not Muslims.

Bush/Cheney never lived in any Muslim countries, they relied on expatriates from Iraq who told them Iraqi’s will welcome them with flowers as liberators. Next time ask more people who are actually living in Muslim countries. Heck even I knew Iraq would not turn democratic for 50 years minimum.

As for 911, none of the terrorists had origins in Iraq. Bush was worried about chemical WMD’s Saddam had already used and the yellow cake transactions. But still there was zero evidence Saddam had plans to attack USA. His main goal was to counter-balance his arch enemy, Iran.

OK, so Bush/Cheney did decide to invade Iraq. Saddam was ousted. If they stopped there and left, that would have been not so bad. But then we spent Billions in nation building and attempt to democratize Iraq. That was utter waste of blood and treasure.

Please, future presidents, do not waste any more blood and treasure trying to democratize any Muslim country for 50 more years.


112 posted on 06/21/2014 10:51:37 AM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst president ever, thanks to voters who abstained on election day!)
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To: entropy12

Our mistake was pulling out, a mistake that you support Obama on.

We need to support and introduce civilizing and modernizing forces and trends and elements into the closed and isolated Middle East.

To make their walls start to crumble from within.


118 posted on 06/21/2014 1:49:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: entropy12
OK, so Bush/Cheney did decide to invade Iraq. Saddam was ousted. If they stopped there and left, that would have been not so bad. But then we spent Billions in nation building and attempt to democratize Iraq. That was utter waste of blood and treasure.

Please, future presidents, do not waste any more blood and treasure trying to democratize any Muslim country for 50 more years.

Pretty much right on target....

126 posted on 06/22/2014 8:40:23 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: entropy12; kjam22

You guys and Obama have it backwards, pulling out was the mistake.

You should also quit pretending that our true reasons were to create pure democracies like in a children’s book, we needed to penetrate into that region of war which was and is increasingly focused on conquering Christendom.

We should have stayed there to help protect the sane ones trying to move into the 19th or 20th century, and to keep the ones who want to consolidate and destroy the West, weak and without a base, and especially not a nation base.


130 posted on 06/22/2014 10:26:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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