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Jury convicts Quebec woman who stopped for ducks
Global News ^ | June 20, 2014 | Canadian Press Staff

Posted on 06/20/2014 8:45:35 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: rickmichaels

NOT GUILTY!


61 posted on 06/20/2014 12:08:19 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: Boogieman

Ducks don’t walk around at night. The have no cones, just rods.


62 posted on 06/20/2014 12:11:23 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: rickmichaels

She stopped in the fast (left) lane of a multi-lane road with a (from what I have read) 100 km/h (60 mph) speed limit. Without putting her 4-way flashers on, again from what I have read. A busy inter-urban highway at that. She’s just lucky that it wasn’t a tractor trailer that rear-ended her at speed. As to why the motorcyclist wasn’t able to avoid her: it’s possible that there was another vehicle ahead of him blocking his view which changed lanes to the right at the last moment without slowing, catching him off guard.

Yes, a driver or rider should be able to stop and avoid something on the road if necessary, even on a multi-lane divided highway at speed. Back in reality land, though, you don’t expect someone to stop and park in the fast lane - it wasn’t by any definition an emergency, and the motorcyclist certainly wouldn’t have hit her if she didn’t stop there.

I don’t want to see this woman’s life ruined for her stupid mistake, but when you do something this stupid, with those sorts of consequences, I think something a little more severe than raised insurance rates, a traffic ticket and a fine is in order.


63 posted on 06/20/2014 12:19:42 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: freerepublicchat

“The motorcyclist was a biggest moron.
Cars stall in the middle of the road. Treads of tires come off and lay in the road. An animal could have been in the road.
It’s stupid to drive so fast that you can’t stop for what you can’t yet see.”

In theory, yes. In reality...
Do you drive on a busy urban freeway regularly? Traffic is heavy, drivers are aggressive, and if you try to leave a proper gap to the car in front of you, someone will pretty much immediately take it. It’s not safe, but that’s how everyone drives on these kinds of roads. Stopping in a traffic lane is virtually suicidal for the driver, and a huge hazard to everyone else on the road. Not a reasonable thing to choose to do.


64 posted on 06/20/2014 12:25:39 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“This woman deliberately and on purpose caused the death of two innocent people.”

No, she deliberately and on purpose parked in a high speed traffic lane. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t her intent to cause anyone’s death. That’s why she was charged with criminal negligence, not first degree murder.


65 posted on 06/20/2014 12:27:30 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: ltc8k6

Funny thing is, I actually feel bad for her, too. I’m sure she didn’t anticipate that this would result from her actions. She was motivated by good intentions. I imagine she probably feels terrible about the deaths that she caused (or at least contributed to), and won’t ever do something like this again. OTOH, one of the reason we punish people for criminal acts is as deterrence, so a suitable sentence here to remind people of the possible consequences is necessary.


66 posted on 06/20/2014 12:33:39 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: rickmichaels

Hope she gets life without parole!


67 posted on 06/20/2014 12:52:57 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Chickensoup

Well, that photo is clearly taken at night, and I don’t think they left the wreck sitting in the roadway like that for hours. You can even see the spraypaint on the road where they are marking the position of the wreck before they tow it out of the way.


68 posted on 06/20/2014 1:05:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: -YYZ-

She wasn’t exactly playing the Knockout Game.


69 posted on 06/20/2014 1:10:25 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ZULU
Maybe the Motorcyclist should have been watching the road.

HE was responsible for the accident, not this lady.

Absolutely! Take the ducks out of the equation and insert "stalled car", the end result would have been the same.......

70 posted on 06/20/2014 1:12:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: jumpingcholla34
But, I know that situations could arise in which I simply would not be able to avoid a crash: for example, when a guy pulls out of a parking lot into my lane just after my window of stopping distance has closed.

Yup. There are times you just can't do anything about it.

The older I get, the more I think about those scenarios, and the less I ride.

Not me. I figure the time of my death is up to the Lord. I figure I'm in His hands anytime I'm on the road, whether in a cage or on a bike.

Let's say you're cruising down a 2-lane road at 65 mph in west Texas.  You're definitely not speeding, and visibility is miles in every direction. As you're about to pass someone in the opposite direction, a road runner darts out into the road, and frightens the driver going the other way, and he plows into you head on. You are DRT, and there is not a damned thing you could do about it.  Doesn't particularly matter if you're in an Escalade or on a crotch rocket.  I decided a long time ago that I pretty much hand my life to everyne around me when I'm in a vehicle, and though you can take precautions and be prudent, ultimately, whether you live or die it's not really up to you.

71 posted on 06/20/2014 2:15:41 PM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: PLMerite
"Was, perchance, the truck swerving to avoid the bimbo’s car?"

According to the article, the woman driving the truck towing a camper said she swerved to the right to avoid hitting the parked car.

72 posted on 06/20/2014 2:39:43 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Gaffer; Responsibility2nd
No, and you know better. Exigent circumstances BEYOND one’s control is a far cry from what she did. The argument is ludicrous.

It's not. The motorcyclist has to share some of the blame. If he's not capable of stopping for a woman who deliberately stopped then he wouldn't be able to stop for a disabled vehicle.

I think you guys want to punished more for stopping for a duck than the fact that a motorcyclist couldn't stop in time.

73 posted on 06/20/2014 5:14:22 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Boogieman
Well, that photo is clearly taken at night, and I don’t think they left the wreck sitting in the roadway like that for hours. You can even see the spraypaint on the road where they are marking the position of the wreck before they tow it out of the way.

Don't know where you live but just about every accident that causes a death is left for hours so the CSI teams get to practice what they see on TV.

74 posted on 06/20/2014 5:19:31 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Boogieman
According to Tessier’s testimony, drivers in the westbound section of the highway on the evening of the accident, June 27, 2010, had to deal with a setting sun that made visibility poor.From here.

So, not only was he speeding but he was doing so with a Sun blinding him.

Yeah, it was all her fault. /s

75 posted on 06/20/2014 5:27:39 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: raybbr

When did I say it was all her fault? It’s certainly mostly her fault, that’s for sure.


76 posted on 06/20/2014 5:44:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
The lady is not responsible, even though she parked her car in a driving lane on a road without a shoulder?: Even though this accident was at night and multiple witnesses said she did NOT put her hazard lights on before leaving her vehicle there?

Hmmmm.... I got the impression from your rhetorical questions that you thought she was at fault. I don't notice any equivocation.

77 posted on 06/20/2014 5:51:14 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: raybbr

Did she even put on her hazard lights? Put up her hood? Flag anyone?She’s going to jail for a very good reason.


78 posted on 06/20/2014 6:11:29 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: raybbr

They weren’t rhetorical questions, they were actual questions to another poster, claiming the accident was the motorcyclist’s fault for not watching the road. Why would I equivocate when his premise was an absolute? (That one’s rhetorical)


79 posted on 06/20/2014 9:02:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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