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Megyn Kelly makes the Cheneys answer for being ‘wrong’ on Iraq
Hotair ^ | 06/19/2014 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 06/19/2014 7:10:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It isn’t just the left that is cheering Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly this morning, a day after she gave former Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz Cheney a sound grilling over Iraq, many on the right suspicious of an interventionist foreign policy are cheering her as well.

On Wednesday night, Kelly hosted the Cheney’s for what was billed as a discussion about their new political initiative aimed at crafting criticisms of President Barack Obama’s present approach to foreign policy. While there is much that is worthy of criticism in Obama’s handling of foreign affairs, some, including AllahPundit, wondered if the Cheneys could serve as helpful messengers.

Kelly brought those concerns directly to the Cheneys. After reading a portion of a brutal op-ed which essentially accused Cheney of setting in motion the events which have led to the present chaos in Iraq, Kelly voiced her own criticism of the former vice president.

“Time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir,” she said


That’s a little harsh, and it’s certainly a debatable point, but the substance of this interview is not what struck me. What was important, and is frankly undervalued by the rest of the political press, is how frequently the supposedly conservative news network veers off what many believe is their script. What’s more, when this sort of contentious interview with a prominent Republican occurs, Fox is rewarded for it by their core audience.

The opposite is not the case, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey on cable news viewers’ satisfaction with the product they are consuming:

One thing that differs when it comes to MSNBC is that it does not draw the same uniformly positive reviews from consistent liberals that FNC does from consistent conservatives. While nearly half (45%) of consistent liberals view MSNBC favorably, that’s not much better than how MSNBC rates among those with mixed ideological views (38%). Nearly half of consistent liberals offer no opinion of MSNBC. By contrast, the vast majority of consistent conservatives offer an opinion of Fox News, with 74% favorable and just 5% unfavorable.

“When MSNBC President Phil Griffin decided to turn his network into a liberal answer to Fox News, he was betting that there was a progressive audience out there to match the conservative faithful on the other side,” Politico’s Dylan Byers reacted. “But people don’t simply watch opinion channels because the programming matches their partisan views. The programming has to be compelling.”

Yes, but it’s more than that. Having watched MSNBC evolve as a network over the last two years, it seems to me that their every answer to ratings challenges is strive to be even more predictable. It has become increasingly rare for an MSNBC host to go off the reservation of progressive thought.

Kelly’s interview of the Cheneys was compelling, but it was also contentious and tension makes for good television. It is possible that MSNBC’s core audience simply does not appreciate having the members of their “team” challenged by those who are supposedly on their side. When was the last time you saw Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow interrogate a Democratic officeholder from the right?



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cheney; iraq; megynkelly
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: but what about the proof of what our troops found? Can you detail some of them?

WMDs Found in Iraq

Deadly chemicals are found dumped in river

Evidence of WMDs in Iraq - Annonymous Freeper in Iraq

Cyanide Salt Block Found in Iraq

MSNBC - Cyanide & Mustard Agents Found in Euphrates River

EUPHRATES 'POISONED'

NBC Forces Out Bob Arnot Who Delivered Upbeat Stories from Iraq(Arnot Charges Bias)

-PJ

61 posted on 06/19/2014 8:48:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Megyn Kelly’s show is one of the best on Fox news. She is a very able reporter and interviwer. That said, I thought her tone and attitude with the Cheneys was rather harsh — even if the questions were fair.

Cheney does not deserve that. He is still one of the most important real Americans to serve in political office.


62 posted on 06/19/2014 8:49:08 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis

RE: That said, I thought her tone and attitude with the Cheneys was rather harsh — even if the questions were fair.

I wonder why Hillary did not appear on Megyn’s show opting instead to talk to Greta and Brett...


63 posted on 06/19/2014 8:52:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: rbmillerjr

Candidate Bush, in the debates preceding the presidential election in 2000, specifically criticized “nation-building”
following a military intervention (such as that of Bosnia).

So, like his “read my lips” father, once again a Bush went back on his words, and the nation paid the price as the result.


64 posted on 06/19/2014 8:55:45 AM PDT by research99
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To: secret garden

I daily watch Neil Cavoto to find out what the GOP-E will use as an excuse for caving-in to Obama Democrats on the topics of the day.

Neil is always spot on with GOP-E talking points, carefully timed interruptions to a guest’s point of view, and as always, very, Very rude to all Conservative guests.

I am always surprised at why Cavoto and O’Reilly even bother to have guests.

I guess Neil and Billy-O enjoy shouting down guests with slurs from the GOP-E and Obama Democrat Bi-Partisan Handbook.


65 posted on 06/19/2014 8:57:19 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

She ambushed him!


66 posted on 06/19/2014 8:58:52 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: GBA
That we felt the need to try to stabilize it somehow is further proof to me that President Washington was correct about intermeddling in foreign governments.

This was beyond mere intermeddling, there was also a great concern that a wild Hussein placed the world-wide oil market at risk, that protecting that market was a noble objective.

That we didn't stay and finish the job may well come home to roost in the next few weeks, now that the terrorists have reportedly hoisted their flag over the largest oil facility in Iraq.

P.S., I enjoyed the "green thing" on your About page, will have to go back and read the rest of that page.

67 posted on 06/19/2014 9:00:03 AM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: SeekAndFind

Saddam Hussein worked for the CIA for over 40 years.

His career reportedly began as part of a small assassination team in Iraq.


68 posted on 06/19/2014 9:14:34 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I watched this interchange, and was not offended.

First of all the old canard about ‘weapons of mass destruction’ was brought up. The fact is that Saddam H. did have WMD’s. He used chemical warfare against the Kurdish population in northern Iraq. That is not disputed. WMD is not synonymous with only nuclear weapons!

Secondly, Dick Cheney was able to answer all these questions very well, because he is knowledgeable and is not afraid to speak truth to power.


69 posted on 06/19/2014 9:20:01 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Gumdrop

I agree. Looking at some of the posts here, I was starting to wonder if there was a SECOND Kelly interview with the Cheneys that I had missed - she was asking some tough questions but I never noticed her being harsh or disrespectful, and (unlike many other talking heads) she actually allowed the Cheney’s to fully answer questions, rather than just interrupting to save her taling points.


70 posted on 06/19/2014 9:23:14 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Iron Munro

Why do you spew liberal irrationality?


71 posted on 06/19/2014 9:29:01 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: varina davis

I believe the Cheneys handled Megan quite well and she allowed them time to answer her question. I agree she threw some tough questions but they answered well because she didn’t talk over them. Obama wouldn’t make a pimple on Dick Cheney’s (you know what).


72 posted on 06/19/2014 9:32:35 AM PDT by depenzz ("its not a chance you take, its a choice you make")
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To: Graewoulf
Do you realize that Cavuto is a top executive at Fox News behind Roger Ailes? Cavuto is Senior Vice President.

-PJ

73 posted on 06/19/2014 9:38:25 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The reasons for going into Iraq were to get the weapons of mass destruction, and to stop Saddam from committing genocide. Even the Democrats signed onto it. We got Saddam, and we destroyed weapons stockpiles. We even got the side benefit of Libya surrendering, and turning over nuclear materials. Mission accomplished.

The reason for going into Afghanistan was to get the Taliban training camps, capture Osama, and get the radicals who trained the Saudis responsible for 911. Mission accomplished, more or less.

Occupying Islamic countries to install Democracy and democratic governments, with the hope of creating Western values, liberty and goodwill towards America was/is a mistake of moronic proportions. Western values and liberty that developed in the West didn’t happen overnight, and they didn’t happen in an Islamic vacuum. Democracy gives back what is put into it, and Islam is a poor medium for good expectations and results. What is presently happening in Iraq was entirely predictable from the day we marched into Baghdad, and the same will happen in Afghanistan when we are finally gone.

In my opinion, we should have bombed our way to justice, nuked Mecca, left every training camp and supportive country in piles of rubble, and decimated the heart of Islam, with promises that any further hostilities from Islam will be met with overwhelming destructive force. ...But that would have hurt Islamic feelings, and we would much rather strip search old Irish ladies in our airports. Whatever it takes to be PC.


74 posted on 06/19/2014 9:55:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: pallis

RE: We got Saddam, and we destroyed weapons stockpiles.

When Bush spoke about WMD’s, people had in mind Nukes, Chemical Weapons and Biological weapons.

Did we find any?


75 posted on 06/19/2014 9:57:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: depenzz; varina davis

Here’s the entire interview if you missed it, or want to review it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW6dWbbaylo


76 posted on 06/19/2014 9:59:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Gumdrop

RE: First of all the old canard about ‘weapons of mass destruction’ was brought up. The fact is that Saddam H. did have WMD’s. He used chemical warfare against the Kurdish population in northern Iraq. That is not disputed. WMD is not synonymous with only nuclear weapons!

OK, did we find any chemical weapon stockpiles in Iraq ( the ones he used to kill over 5000 Kurds )?


77 posted on 06/19/2014 10:01:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

it was mostly simple statements over the years, would take time to find. If the proof was on a hard drive somewhere...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/07/02/polish-troops-find-sarin-warheads/

Nuclear? heard the scientists lied to saddam.

The problem with Iraq was that the first war was never finished. That was the most infuriating stand down ever. bah.


78 posted on 06/19/2014 10:09:32 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, I just read today that the ISIS Sunni fighters have captured Saddam Hussein’s cache of Chemical Weapons.


79 posted on 06/19/2014 10:13:23 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did we find any?

As I understand it, we did get some chemical stockpiles. What we got as a result of Libya’s response shouldn’t be brushed aside. We probably could have accomplished as much or more with well planned carpet bombing, while skipping the occupation. But Bush’s plan was twofold. He wanted to shock and awe Islam with a demonstration of America’s overwhelming military force, and at the same time he wanted to demonstrate how magnanimous and fair we and our military can be. In a convoluted sense, the goal was to defeat and make allies of Islamic countries, like we did with Japan and Germany. ...It was an idiotic plan. We didn’t go nearly far enough to carry out our shock and awe, and trying to bring Islam into the age of reason without changing Islam would have been like encouraging Nazis to be good Nazis while learning to love the rest of the world.

Again, what we are getting with Iraq, and what we will get with Afghanistan was entirely predictable from the beginning.


80 posted on 06/19/2014 10:49:47 AM PDT by pallis
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