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To: rarestia

It seems the case is built around an informant. One wonders exactly how this ‘informant’ came to be aware of the activities authorities assert.

Seems to me that the government is actively infiltrating groups and not just bystanders in creating the environment for the concerns indicated in the article.

The early activities bringing about Ruby Ridge come to mind.


7 posted on 06/17/2014 3:57:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: pansgold

Now this guy is preparing to defend his Oath.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 4:04:21 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Gaffer

Seems to me that the government is actively infiltrating groups and not just bystanders in creating the environment for the concerns indicated in the article.


The russian people used to have a saying, something along the lines of :

If you are in a conspiracy and you are not the informant then the others are.

It’s a lot like poker, if you can’t spot the patsy at the table then you are the ‘Patsy’.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 4:08:10 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Gaffer

Of course they are.

The FedGov NEEDS these type of events. It furthers their agenda.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 4:19:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gaffer

Most of the prepper groups have informants or undercover agents who attend meetings. I used to attend one group. Had firefighters, off duty cops and so forth who seemed to be legit.

Also, had people who would spout off anti-govt statements advocating violence. Happened several times and they were usually asked to leave if they didn’t stop. IMO they were informants seeking to instigate.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 4:23:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gaffer
he had a plan to kill government agents when he needed to.

Who doesn't? part of be professional, Be polite, Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

16 posted on 06/17/2014 4:25:14 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Gaffer

I’m in the Tampa area.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 4:25:26 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gaffer

Sounds like the Southern Poverty Law Center has stuck their nose in.

Since the jug eared clown in the WH has been actively, as in full bore, ginning up dissent in the American people for the last month you can bet there will be more.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 4:35:17 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Gaffer
The early activities bringing about Ruby Ridge come to mind.

When they leaned on Weaver to be an informant, he refused. That's why they went after him.

Not everyone is so steadfast, which is why it doesn't hurt to choose associates very carefully, even if you aren't doing anything wrong--because the rules can change leaving you open to trouble.

Always remember how many people it takes to keep a secret (exactly one).

43 posted on 06/17/2014 5:28:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Gaffer

They are and have been doing it for years. One way, not foolproof but it will keep you out of trouble if you attend one of these groups is to what the guy that “:makes friends” with you says. Your only response should be, “Not interested”.


47 posted on 06/17/2014 5:34:36 AM PDT by sport
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