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Iraqi Drama Catches U.S. Off Guard (Senior U.S. Off.: Makes you want to kill yourself)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Thursday, June 12, 2014 | Adam Entous and Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 06/12/2014 6:30:34 AM PDT by kristinn

At a closed-door gathering of Gulf states in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, in May, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and his Arab counterparts all signaled agreement on one thing for the first time: Islamist forces seizing territory in Syria and Iraq had become a regionwide menace that can't be ignored.

What they didn't agree on was what to do about it, U.S. officials said.The fall this week of the Iraqi cities Mosul and Tikrit to the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham rebel group shows how the insurgent threat is outpacing the response and posing a challenge to President Barack Obama's approach of limiting U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts.

The quickly unfolding drama prompted a White House meeting Wednesday of top policy makers and military leaders who were caught off guard by the swift collapse of Iraqi security forces, officials acknowledged.

State Department and Pentagon officials have long warned about ISIS's desire to create an Islamic state based in the Sunni-dominated parts of Iraq and Syria.

Now, current and former officials say Washington's options for helping the Iraqi army fight back are limited—both because the threat in Iraq is so entrenched and because the U.S. hasn't invested in building up moderate allies on the Syrian side of the border.

SNIP

Some military officials now believe ISIS is the single greatest terrorist threat the U.S. and its allies face—stronger than the al Qaeda affiliates in Yemen or Africa and far more powerful than al Qaeda's central leadership in Pakistan. Other senior U.S. officials say ISIS has yet to carry out any attacks directly targeting the U.S.

"It makes you want to kill yourself," a senior U.S. official said of the intelligence on ISIS, which was presented by U.S. and Gulf allies during the May meeting in Jeddah.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bho44; bhogwot; bhosecdef; iraq; iraqmeltdown; isil; isis; leadingfrombehind; mosul; obama; secdefhagel
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To: kristinn

Obama Administration To Gut The Military Because Of Sequestration

Sequestration now! Sequestration tomorrow! Sequestration forever!

101 posted on 06/12/2014 3:42:46 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: livius

You are right, livius.

You are right.

This ISIS is a big deal.

Although, technically it was late Summer on 9/11.


102 posted on 06/12/2014 3:45:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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The minstrel Juan Williams is now frontrunning for his beloved Mullah Baraq to send military force to Iraq.


103 posted on 06/12/2014 3:46:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: kristinn

I can think of a lot of “senior U.S. intelligence figures” I would love to see kill themselves.


104 posted on 06/12/2014 4:54:07 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: dfwgator

The NSA is more concerned about the real threat to this nation...the Tea Party. /s


105 posted on 06/12/2014 4:55:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: dfwgator

If they had spent more time looking at America’s enemies and less time chasing Obama’s domestic foes, they might have found a clue or two.


106 posted on 06/12/2014 4:56:39 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: matt04

Oh, they're on the run alright!

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107 posted on 06/12/2014 5:54:07 PM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: CivilWarBrewing
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108 posted on 06/12/2014 6:03:08 PM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: USAF80

I think they rely too much on electronic means as opposed to humans on the ground.

And we are probably not getting much from the israelis anymore


109 posted on 06/12/2014 6:36:32 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: kristinn

None of this makes a bit of difference. Just make sure the troops show up in uniform for the Pride Parade.


110 posted on 06/12/2014 7:13:07 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: kristinn

Nobody ever hear of ISIS before this week. No doubt the Saudi controllers of Barack Hussein Obama decided it is time to have the Sunni Shititite war to end all wars and to give Saudi the oil of Iraq that the Saudi should have had in Gulf War 1.

Somebody set up us the bomb. Now all our base are belong to them. That somebody is some Kenyan.


111 posted on 06/12/2014 7:57:52 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: alloysteel

All those photos of the ISIS columns of trucks etc just call out for some A10’s to do their stuff and shred them, add Puff too.


112 posted on 06/12/2014 8:05:39 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: kristinn
Mark Levin reported at he end of his show that the leader of this group was being held by USA forces in a prion in Iraq, but was released in 2009.

Did Obama order that release back thenn as part of his narrative of pulling out of Iraq?

I don't see any stories about this report yet.

-PJ

113 posted on 06/12/2014 8:14:51 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Iraq crisis: the jihadist behind the takeover of Mosul - and how America let him go
114 posted on 06/12/2014 8:23:18 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD
Thanks. That's the article that Levin read from.

The article is weak on the part about "how America let him go."

I wonder why?

-PJ

115 posted on 06/12/2014 8:27:30 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: kristinn

Some military officials now believe ISIS is the single greatest terrorist threat the U.S. and its allies face—stronger than the al Qaeda affiliates in Yemen or Africa and far more powerful than al Qaeda’s central leadership in Pakistan.


Heard they were part of al-Qaaaeeda, but al-Qaaaeeda kicked them out because they were too extreme.


116 posted on 06/12/2014 8:40:07 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: kristinn

Other senior U.S. officials say ISIS has yet to carry out any attacks directly targeting the U.S.


Nothin to worry about, folks!They’re more powerful and extreme than Hezbollah, the mullahs in Iran, the Taliban, or al-Qaaaeeda at it’s height. But they haven’t hit us yet, so we have nothin to worry about!


117 posted on 06/12/2014 8:44:34 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Norm Lenhart
Yet, “the People” put Liberals in power hoping for a better tomorrow. All Obama had to say in 2008 was 2 things:

1) I am not like George Bush
2) Change

He was a rank amateur with a horrible agenda then and today, after passively sitting in the W.H., he is still a rank amateur being outflanked by every other leader in the world.

He is the ultimate sucker who has a sign pinned on his back saying, “Kick me”.

118 posted on 06/12/2014 9:30:45 PM PDT by Netz
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To: matt04

On the run - running to Baghdad.


119 posted on 06/13/2014 5:12:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Obama’s apparent neglect of Iraq was really a clever strategy to demonstrate how important the US is to stability and peace.


120 posted on 06/13/2014 5:17:39 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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