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To: DoodleDawg; myself6
The people who got us into this mess were the states and the people of 1913. They bought the snake-oil of democracy and ratified the 17th Amendment.

No restoration of republican freedom is possible without its repeal. Not because the states are wise, but precisely because they will look out for their interests, as per the Framers’ design.

Our backs are against the wall. Even if the dangers are as you say, our once republic is now an authoritarian state, where the law is what Obama and his criminals say it is.

We have nothing to lose.

20 posted on 06/12/2014 5:41:24 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th. Article V.)
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To: Jacquerie
They bought the snake-oil of democracy and ratified the 17th Amendment.

Everyone condemns the 17th Amendment but I'll point out again. Without the 17th Amendment David Dewhurst is the current junior senator from Texas, Bob Bennett is still the junior Senator from Utah, and Todd Cochran will be looking forward to his umpteenth term.

We have nothing to lose.

Things can always get worse. And with the kind of people that would be elected to an Article V convention it probably would.

26 posted on 06/12/2014 5:49:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jacquerie

“Our backs are against the wall. Even if the dangers are as you say, our once republic is now an authoritarian state, where the law is what Obama and his criminals say it is. “

Good point. The convention of states is the voice of the states against overbearing federal authority. Such a convention will produce amendments that shift power from the feds toward the states. That is at the core of what will happen. Anything related to the 2nd amendment, 1st amendment, or such would be too far off the focus of such a convention and would never get sufficient support—although some wacky states would propose such crap in order to form a quasi-coalition with the fed govt apparatus—think California and Illinois who might seek to form an economic backup amendment funneling fed funds to states that can’t manage their piggybanks.

Convention of states politicians are not the same as fed politicians because these two entities are competing for the same power, that is, the power derived from the labor and taxes of the working citizens. A difference is that the states are closer to those citizens and far less able to show citizens disrespect. Another difference is the between-states competition that is not much of a fed issue.

The convention of states is a good idea and the only predictable, managable idea for avoiding the disaster that the fed gov’t is racing towards. Otherwise, the numbers are clear—the US is driving toward the situation of Argentina,, Japan, Greece, and other hopeless economies


37 posted on 06/12/2014 6:14:17 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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