Posted on 06/04/2014 10:19:50 AM PDT by Iced Tea Party
-- I thought you were religious? --
I think of myself that way. I'm not as perfect as you are though.
Judges are part of the political system and voting.
We defeat them with conservative politics.
William F. Buckley and William F. Buckley, Jr. are dead.
National Review has been infiltrated by leftists. They toss us a
bone now and then, but they’ve turned left against the traffic.
Gay marriage seems to bring out your mix of holier than thou preaching and nastiness, at the same time.
Your “paraphrase” was dishonest, and posting it behind my back reinforces that it was dishonest.
Why would someone as religious as you be arguing against conservative opposition to the gay agenda? Most religious Christians support social conservatism.
If government did not exist, marriage would still exist.
Aw man. I told you not to leave. I said you should stick around and learn things from us conservatives. Looks like you blew it.
Do you notice how the pro-gay marriage arguers are sounding like bible waving ministers?
Every gay marriage thread turns into the libertarians and liberals making it look like a religion thread, with the pro-marriage people being the bad guys.
Well, if politically opposing it regularly results in resounding defeat, catcalls and ridicule by a libtardian controlled media, and waffly pansies are all our candidates ever appear to be when questioned on it, what do you think???
It appears to be barren ground upon which the seeds of conservative ideas go to shrivel and die.
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Is it your contention that I should put my faith in what someone who has given up on this country advises? Why would I, or anyone else, be willing to do that?
I like a lot of the Republican Party's platform — but that's all a lie. (The Republican party has no intention of striving for them.)
The Constitution party is probably second-best platform-wise, and I do like a lot of libertarian-philosophy goals (as opposed to Libratarian-party platform-planks [and even theirs are a lot more realistic/honest than the Republicans]).
It seems that your actual political goal, is what we see here at conservative freerepublic, persuade the conservatives to drop it as an issue in this election, and those to come.
No, I give my political goals here. That you reject this and claim my personal opinion as a political goal makes me doubt your honesty in any attempted discussion.
Yet even simple primitive tribes have marriage laws, and they can include polygyny and polyandry and other variations depending on the tribe.
Americans didn’t accept those practices.
If government did not exist, marriage would still exist.
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And conversely, if Religion did not exist, marriage would still exist.
I have always maintained that marriage is a holy contract between a man, woman and God.
But if you’re not religious, then OK. I don’t have to force my religous views on you. I can keep it secular.
And by that I mean that traditional marriage benefits a nation. The social and economic benefits of the family is the backbone of American Greatness. Take away marriage from our laws and politics and what you are left with is what we have since the days of LBJ.
A festering Welfare State where King Obama rules as our nation disintegrates.
Please don’t waste my time, the question was in regards to marriage only.
Where is there a substantive, real political movement to end all legal marriage and divorce, to remove them from all law, and government and common societal recognition, and to make all such unions purely personal and the realm of any and all religions, but limited to religion?
Hey, I can go there to.
[Great, another asshat so called conservative windmill tilter insuring election of libtards and blubbery kiss-ass republicans ad infinitum...]
But I won’t. My point is this is not the high ground to make our stand on when the government is plowing fertile tyrannical ground over a myriad of other subjects, any of which reach fruition and the subject of whom they sanction wedding who becomes moot.
Civil unions aren’r marriages. People can use them so if they’re in a hospital or die, that person is their primary custodian. Two divorcees could use them so if something happened to one of them, the other would get custody of the children. Assets can go to that person instead of greedy relatives. The house doesn’t have to be sold. etc
At least you bluntly admit to what you are arguing, and that you oppose our fight against gay marriage.
You guys almost never just come out and say it.
No, but you might take it into consideration for a plan B...
Yeah, because libertarians weren't told to get out and not let the door hit us on the ass on the way out. We are a former wing of your party until proven otherwise. Truth is, you guys need us more than we need you. Your demographics are horrible. The mexicans know you don't want them, the blacks will probably never trust you, women for the most part think you hate their kids. But the only group you have any common cause with that will still take your phone calls...you spit at.
The liberals treat us just as badly as you guys do, so we have nothing to lose if we sit back and watch. You see, we're used to being minorities in the political field. But we're not falling for the Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football thing again.
My point is this is not the high ground to make our stand on when the government is plowing fertile tyrannical ground.
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But this IS the high ground to stand on. Social issues are the key ingredient here.
We have had lame wanna-be’s (Romney and McCain) step up and be defeated. Why? Because they would not address the social issues. Hell, Romney had Nobama by the balls with his 47 percent remarks. But he was too chicken bleep to use that. And Mcain? Nothing moral about that loser at all.
And you know which single demographic group put Bush over Gore in 2000? and also gave him the edge in ‘08?
Evangelicals.
Point is... Traditional marriages are our ONLY option. Along with other such similar social issues. Hell, if you ain’t right on favoring traditional marriages, then to hell with you. I wouldn’t trust your fiscal policies either.
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