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Exene Cervenka's Tweets Calling Isla Vista Shooting a Hoax Inspire a Blogging Rampage [Gun Control]
OC Weekly ^ | Nate Jackson

Posted on 06/01/2014 4:03:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Fans of Exene Cervenka must be feeling a little torn right now. On the one hand, her ability to thumb her nose at convention and question the status quo are what make her punk rock royalty. But then you go and read her Twitter feed yesterday and realize there's a definite line between revolutionary and wacky. The Weekly's former columnist (Ask Exene/ Exene Says) took to Twitter yesterday posting a few links to truther videos about the shooting rampage that occurred last week near UC Santa Barbara, saying she was "sick of these hoaxes." Not surprisingly, the tweets have inspired a bit of a rampage of their own. Bloggers, commenters, even her own followers are pretty peeved. Indie culture blog Dangerous Minds (who already pokes fun at Cervenka and her YouTube channel plenty) called Cervenka "the Victoria Jackson" of punk rock, to which Cervenka replied via Twitter "who's Victoria Jackson?" Zing!

Rather than write some essay on the flimsy merits of the truther's YouTube journalism, let's just say we're glad that the singer for X and the Knitters spiked her column here before tweeting this mess. Even though we've parted ways, as a publication that has long respected her work on and off the stage and written about her quite a bit and also worked with her as a writer, we're not ashamed to say this is downright embarrassing.

See below for updated apology from Cervenka.

Whether you want to believe these truther theories or not, ask yourself this: would you have the balls to roll up to UCSB and do the job of an actual journalist and seek out the coroner's office, go to the crime scenes, talk to witnesses, and then visit each one of the parents of the murder victims and say "Hmm, I'm not convinced this really happened"? If you're not, then any attempt to assert the alternative truth of what's been reported is not only insensitive, it's just lazy. What's in it for all the actors in this supposed hoax, anyway? Surely Elliot Rodger's father, the assistant director on all the murderous Hunger Games movies, must have a secret axe to grind over our state's gun laws (the strictest in the country). That's why he let his son go out and pretend to kill all those people and himself, right?

In any case, I'm sure her bandmates in X are stoked to see all this unfold as they prep for their string of shows at the Roxy coming up. This is a great distraction!

Then just hours ago, after all the blog hate, we see the inevitable backpedal on her Twitter feed. "I never said no one died," she tweets. "It's the media that covers up and lies to us about these events. Questioning authority is ok, people."

Sigh...yeah, that made it better. The media did what, now? Ok, time to roll up the car window and drive away...bye!

We're glad we can all have 1st Amendment rights and can say whatever we want. And now we can put it up for all of our family, fans and followers to see it, including the the knee jerk stuff we tend to regret later. If her intent was to inspire people to seek an alternative to the mainstream media's reports, maybe she nabbed a few. But mostly, we're guessing she lost a lot more fans.

Update: 4 p.m.: Today, Cervenka posted an apology for her comments on X's Facebook page. Full text below:

I want to apologize for using the word 'hoax' in a comment I made on social media. I realize people have died in these violent events and we have all experienced that in our own lives. No one wants anyone else to ever have to go through that. The point I am always trying to make is that we need to start thinking critically, looking past the headlines at all available information and make an informed opinion. My issue is with the media's coverage of events that will shape our public policy and laws for generations to come. We all need to be involved in that debate but we cannot contribute unless we have accurate truthful and complete information about what happened at any of these events.

The hatred, rage and intolerance of ones opinions and the threatening language that I have been receiving through the media makes me realize that this is not a path I want to be on. I don't want to be a source of hatred and rage. I don't like it being directed at me and I don't want to create it in anyone's mind. It was not my intent.

I wasn't expecting this kind of response to a comment I made, but it has been a wakeup call and has radically altered my own views as to how I want to live in this world. I always try to do what I think is right. I've always been very vocal and opinionated, but this experience with the media has not been positive, nor productive.

It's only through positive energy that things will get better in this country for all of us.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elliotrodger; exenecervenka; islavista; punk; x
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To: nickcarraway

X on Letterman in 1983(?) performing “Hot House” and “Breathless”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCtq3-rAmTw

The Knitters on Letterman in 2005 performing “Burning House of Love”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPuQPJLxW8o

John Doe performing “Mama Don’t” in 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWKw-9F9Sk

Punk, rockbilly, folk … these people were non-mainstream and not to everyone’s taste, but they have real talent.

I’m a huge fan. Saw them way back in the day (1981, first time) and was just blown away.


21 posted on 06/01/2014 6:10:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That crazy harmony. Exene and John Doe’s voices were made for one another.


22 posted on 06/01/2014 6:12:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I used to run into her in LA, like in the Llasa Club where she was definitely treated like royalty.

I used to read the LA Weekly for it’s band lineups for the weekend. It was a commie screed. Now she writes for the OC Weekly.

Is there an alternative music community in Orange County? Funny place for her to end up in the land of Disney and Little Saigon. Maybe she moved there to be close to the grandkids.


23 posted on 06/01/2014 6:13:37 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: pluvmantelo

Without Googling, is Ray Manzarek in The Doors. If so, I head him read excerpts of his biography at a poetry reading before it was made into a movie.

{Yes, we all have past, that look a little shady to us now.}


24 posted on 06/01/2014 6:14:59 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think it worked really well. But it almost isn’t harmony. It’s almost two people singing the song differently. But I just love it.


25 posted on 06/01/2014 6:15:26 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

X - “See How We Are”

http://youtu.be/XPf286i_Wa0


26 posted on 06/01/2014 6:42:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: lulu16

Well, for all the implied nuttery (and she’s always been at least a little off-kilter, that’s part of the charm), she’s questioning authority and is pro-2A.

It could be worse. Maybe she’s ended up where she is because it’s not quite as establishment leftist as most other coastal California locales.


27 posted on 06/01/2014 6:46:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: pluvmantelo

Back in the day she kind of had that weird, but kinda hot vibe about her, like Siouxsie Sioux.


28 posted on 06/01/2014 6:49:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

Saw “X” play at the Westwood decades ago.

I thought a fight had broken out (my first exposure to “slam dancing”).


29 posted on 06/01/2014 6:51:29 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’m almost posted that one too! It’s fantastic.


30 posted on 06/01/2014 7:44:31 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

We’re desperate get used to it it’s kiss or kill.


31 posted on 06/01/2014 8:31:58 PM PDT by Nooseman
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To: pluvmantelo

“Looks like she might have to leave Los Angeles.”

Now this is funny... few will get it, I am sure.


32 posted on 06/01/2014 8:34:59 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: dfwgator

Indeed.


33 posted on 06/01/2014 8:43:54 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (Democrats:the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: ForYourChildren

Happens all the time to me around here. Especially with movie quotes.


34 posted on 06/01/2014 8:46:38 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (Democrats:the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: nickcarraway

No hoax, just a cover-up of the real cause of the killings: The psychotropic drugs that the fool’s shrink prescribed for years until he toasted out.
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35 posted on 06/01/2014 8:58:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: GunRunner

>> “Personally, I’m surprised there’s not a mass shooting every day...” <<

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There are borderline events every day.

The cause is always the same: Psychotropic drugs prescribed for “HDD” or some similar false diagnosis.
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36 posted on 06/01/2014 9:01:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: GunRunner

Those nut cases are deliberately manufactured.
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37 posted on 06/01/2014 9:03:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RginTN

>> “If I have to google her then she’s not really relevant.” <<

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Yeshua is relevant, not much else.


38 posted on 06/01/2014 9:05:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: GunRunner

I did the math about ten years ago after I became aware of the link between SSRI and shootings.

The numbers are vague to me at this point, so what I list below is not accurate, but you should get the point.

“6 and 8 million children or more in 2000” on Ritalin.
http://www.tldm.org/news6/ritalin.htm

I think the percentage of kids that will experience the extreme side effects of violent psychosis was about 1%, then another number was about 1% would act out on that psychosis.

That would be 800 kids that will act violent because of the SSRI.

There are many other SSRI derivative drugs, not just Ritalin, but Prozac, and similar.

So, yeah, when I hear about these shootings every month or so, it doesn’t surprise me. Just SSRI statistics showing up. Kinda sad.


39 posted on 06/01/2014 9:06:13 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: cmsgop

Folk Rock was the early ‘60s.


40 posted on 06/01/2014 9:08:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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